Quoting: Whitewolfe80It would appear nobody is willing to bet on linux with the exception of Valve who are only investing in linux as a long term stratergy in case MS tries to lock down the next version of windows (well even more then now).

I won't say there's no truth to that, because it most certainly is... but I wouldn't say it's the ONLY reason. It's expansion. By going to Linux they reach even more people. More customers. More happy people. And of course more money. I doubt they supported MacOS because it's a way to get away from Windows ;)

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Quoting: jardonYou can't really buy it on anything. You pretty much have to install it yourself unless you wanna pay a premium for something like a system76 machine. You need to have the off of the shelf experience. That is the incentive.

But you brought up the example with grandma, who buys a PC. Why should she buy one? That's been the issue with pre-built PCs forever. Of course they are sold and there's a market... but a Steam Machine wouldn't change that.

Quoting: jardonBut when it comes to the exclusivity I was talking about, no, I do not believe that means you lock everyone out nor did I imply that in any way. I wasnt even talking about exclusivity to a specific box. That wouldn't be an effective strategy at all. You'd just make everyone mad. Clearly I mean't exclusivity to the Linux platform that the preconfigured hardware would run. I mean steam supports multiple platforms so clearly I meant platform exclusivity. Clearly.

Then what kind of exclusivity? Can you please elaborate on this? And what would be the benefit?

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Quoting: kuhpunktWhat would be the point of that?

I think its pretty obvious. If Linux wants ANY meaningful marketshare then there needs to be an affordable, marketable item that can be bought by grandmas at Walmart for their grandkids. Otherwise the future of Linux marketshare would closely resemble someone trying to collect pennies in order to buy a supercar.

But your argument is about an operating system that is literally free. Selling hardware for that... what's the incentive here? I already got a good computer. Many other people do. And they don't need to buy a new one just to use Linux.

Quoting: jardonComing in as a VR console would be interesting. I personally dont believe that VR is the future, but gimmicks sell. You would need to time the market well though.

VR is not THE future, but A future.

Quoting: jardonIf your console was $1000 then youre dead in the water. You would NEED to hit the $400 price point for the base system and offer an affordable VR package thats no more than $400. Valve could do this, but they would have to risk a loss in subsidizing hardware.

But what would the point be? What's the difference to a normal computer now? Consoles are made so that you use their OS/store. Again, what would be the incentive? What could you do with it that you can't do with a PC right now? Exclusivity would be silly and pretty much impossible.

Quoting: jardonI know that they have been against exclusives fundamentally, and I commend them for their principles, but man are we gonna have to chug along for the next 10 years before anything substantial happens. Here's to hoping for some kind of breakthough!

How would that even work? It would run Steam... and then what? Would they lock everybody, who's already using Steam for years, suddenly out to force them to buy a silly "console" when Steam is the console already?

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Quoting: HoriValve should invest in *proper* VR games

They're already are doing that.

Quoting: Horiand then release a new console focused on VR

What would be the point of that?

Quoting: HoriThey should, this way, be able to "annex" the VR gaming market while it's young and easy to do so.
Obviously that console would also be able to play regular games as well - kinda like a Steam machine but it would be focused on VR.

What would be the difference to a regular gaming PC?

Quoting: HoriAnd let me say this again: It should be made by Valve. If other manufacturers also want to make one, fine. But there should always be the option of buying an official, Valve-made unit - which should be used as a reference by the other manufacturers, by defining a standard. Kinda like how we have official Nvidia (Founder's Edition) cards, and we also have ASUS, MSI, etc cards based on it.

That's already kind of happening.

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Quoting: SpykerI'm curious to see if a significant amount of players leave Steam this month in order to play some Epic's exclusives... What will be the effect on the Steam Linux share ?

I highly doubt anybody who's using Steam regularly will actually leave, no matter what Epic does.

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Quoting: morbiuspeople are ruining a good thing here by getting greedy.

Quoting: morbiusHonestly, I might as well go back to piracy.

Double standards?

Nope. What I liked I would always buy afterwards. Depending on how much I liked it, I might even buy it on smaller discount, get special editions, DLCs, etc. And I would make sure to promote good games as well.

But cheaper games meant I would risk getting more stuff, although I might end up not liking it. That meant I would get to try out more things, while industry gets more of my money overall, seems like a sweet deal for everyone. But now I see games that are over three years old cost 10+ euros on a Steam's biggest sale. Who does that benefit exactly? Whoever really wanted that game has bought it already, you're not generating any new sales with that strategy. Withholding art from people is wrong, developers should care to get their money, but also that their art is available to audiences.

Games are NOT art. At best, the contain some art, alongside other things. For example music in games is art. But games per se, are NOT art.

This is just a bullshit excuse we tell ourselves just so we can justify the time we waste playing them. We want to feel like we are experiencing art while all we are doing is playing with virtual toys.

Video games are just entertainment, and there is nothing wrong with that. Stop deluding yourselves.

Of course games are art. Stop deluding yourself.

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Quoting: morbiusI got to say that I'm greatly disappointed by Steam sales and generally the direction gaming market has been going lately. Not so long ago, aged games were decently priced, indies were bundled together attractively and I was buying way more games than I needed. Good for me, good for the industry, win-win.

Aren't they decently priced now?!

Quoting: morbiusBut then in their greed developers decided they want to sell Steam keys in bulk to third party stores, key swapping and reselling sites started eating into their revenue, so they now try to squeeze every last cent from their games, prices remain high for way too long, there are no more good bundles and I'm struggling to find a good deal in a Steam winter sale that in the past was easily leaving my wallet dry.

Aren't you contradicting yourself here? You just said that they are selling their games cheap on reselling sites... but then you say games are to expensive.

No more good bundles? Check the Humble Monthly and the regular bundles... that's dirt cheap.

Quoting: morbiusHonestly, I might as well go back to piracy. The whole point of digital game distribution was to provide us with fair value so we don't pirate games, like I quit Popcorn when Netflix came along. But people are ruining a good thing here by getting greedy.

Aren't you getting greedy?

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Quoting: GuestIf cs go is now free to play where is money i paid for the game then??

You got to play the game for a while in return while other people, who didn't pay for it, didn't get to play it.

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Quoting: GuestHave i ever offended you in my posts??

Are you seriously asking this question after everything you've said?

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