Quoting: ageres

Quoting: kuhpunktWe just don't know if it's a permanent thing. If sales will be crap on their own store they might see themselves in a position where they "have" to go to Steam to reach the people over there.

I don't think Fallout 76 has good sales, but still it's not on Steam. Many EA games failed but didn't go to Steam. We all know what publishers say when their games get poor sales: "should have used more DRM, will do in the future." They never say that it's because their games are crap or noone wants to use their stupid launchers.

There was a 3 month difference between Elder Scrolls Online launching on Bethesda.net and Steam. Does it mean Fallout 76 will end up on Steam? No. But there is precedent with 2 games.

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Quoting: ageres

Quoting: kuhpunktWell, we don't know that yet. Quake Champions was once a Bethesda Launcher only title and later came to Steam. So it's possible they will still use Steam at a later date. If not... well... they won't be seeing any of my money.

Rage 2 is available for pre-order on https://bethesda.net/en/game/rage2 [External Link] where there are logos of Xbox, PS and Bethesda launcher only, no Steam. No Steam store pages as well. Fallout 76 is not on Steam too. I think it's obvious that Bethesda have left Steam.

At the moment for sure. We just don't know if it's a permanent thing. If sales will be crap on their own store they might see themselves in a position where they "have" to go to Steam to reach the people over there.

Pete Hines explained that Fallout 76 is a "particular case" in the decision to launch only on Bethesda.net, so he didn't say it's a general rule. Might seem like I'm grasping at a straw... I just don't like any definitive word, because things change all the time. And I don't care that much about their games. And wasn't Elder Scrolls Online also a Bethesda.net only game as well for a while? It's now on Steam, too.

So we'll see what the future bringe.

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Quoting: mylkais there a way to sort protondb by release date?
rage 2 uses same engine as just cause 4 and should also work with proton
doom eternal should be the same as doom and work with proton

These games won't be sold on Steam, so no Proton for them. I'm sure Bethesda will try to shove as much DRM into them as they can, and it could prevent from running in Wine.

Well, we don't know that yet. Quake Champions was once a Bethesda Launcher only title and later came to Steam. So it's possible they will still use Steam at a later date. If not... well... they won't be seeing any of my money.

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There could be even more there, some titles on ProtonDB didn’t have enough reports to have a rating. I’m still surprised DOOM only has a “Gold” rating there, as it’s basically flawless for me outside of one windowing issue that was solved with a simple ALT+Enter to re-do the fullscreen.

How regular is ProtonDB being updated? There have been some updates (like the now working Multiplayer) since the first ratings...

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Quoting: jarhead_hHe's there to work on Half Life VR, a prequel to Half Life 2, because prequels are always beloved and never screw anything up. After all, we all know that what we really wanted was to find out what Darth Vader was like as a little kid.

I'm curious what the 7 Hour War looked like.

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Quoting: kuhpunkt

Quoting: dorronIt's time they finish and release it...if they want to keep making changes, they can do it afterwards.

It's absurd how long it's taking them to release this game.

Entitled much?

Having paid for a product that after so many years is unfinished and buggy entitles all buyers to reclaim either a finished product or a refund, yes.

You bought an early access game, knowing that it could take ages to be finished or not even finished at all. Wanting to make changes later... why should they do that? They just want to release a product that's up to some standards. And they aren't a big game studio.

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Quoting: kuhpunkt

In The Valley of Gods - Campo Santo - Possibly not in 2019

Is it correct to say that it's by Campo Santo? Because it's a Valve game now :P

They're still the developer.

But Valve bought the studio. Campo Santo doesn't really exist anymore.

Well the Steam store page still states it's Campo Santo and just because they joined Valve doesn't mean they automatically take Valve's name.

But if you go on the Valve homepage [External Link] they list ITVOG as one of their own games. The guys work at Valve HQ. Other people from Valve might even have joined the team. It's a Valve game :P

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Quoting: dorronIt's time they finish and release it...if they want to keep making changes, they can do it afterwards.

It's absurd how long it's taking them to release this game.

Entitled much?

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Quoting: kuhpunkt

In The Valley of Gods - Campo Santo - Possibly not in 2019

Is it correct to say that it's by Campo Santo? Because it's a Valve game now :P

They're still the developer.

But Valve bought the studio. Campo Santo doesn't really exist anymore.

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In The Valley of Gods - Campo Santo - Possibly not in 2019

Is it correct to say that it's by Campo Santo? Because it's a Valve game now :P

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