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The developer of the game 'Steam Marines' [Official Site, Steam] has been talking about sales of the game, and Linux represented 2% of the total.

Here's a reminder on what the game is:

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It's worth noting that Mac only hit 3%, considering their marketshare on Steam is a lot higher than ours, that's surprising.

Steam Marines 1 lifetime sales are (approximately) 3% Mac and 2% Linux.

So. It's generally not profitable for me to support them.

— Steamed Buns Bums (@Worthless_Bums) November 8, 2016


The developer did say that they will continue to support us, even if it's not financially sound for them to do so. That alone should be applauded.

The developer also noted that Linux users didn't generally need much help:

Linux users almost never contact me for tech support. And the 95% of Windows users represent less than 50% of my tech support issues.

— Steamed Buns Bums (@Worthless_Bums) November 8, 2016


One Tweet in particular caught my attention:

95% of the sales came from Windows users. This was despite Linux users arguing that lots would buy if a Linux version was made available.

— Steamed Buns Bums (@Worthless_Bums) November 8, 2016


I've said it before, and I will say it again, don't bug developers for a Linux version if you aren't personally interested and plan to buy it. It can create situations like this, but it's also worth noting that the developer may have overestimated how much they would make from Linux.

Linux only represents currently 0.89% of the Steam user-base, so 2% of your overall sales to have come from Linux is actually quite healthy. To me, that says the developer expected a little too much. That 2% figure is more than other developers have seen.

It's also worth noting that Steam Marines came to Linux around a year after the original Windows release. Games that don't get a day-1 Linux release often tend to see lower Linux sales as a result of many factors. The first being that Windows obviously had around a year extra to bring in sales, Linux as mentioned above is a smaller market, dual-booters often become impatient and buy a Windows copy, some people use Wine and so on. A day-1 Linux release is generally a must-do if you want to see good sales and support from Linux gamers.

Still, it's great to see developers speaking about this in the open and if you like the look of Steam Marines go pick up a copy and support an indie developer.

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riusma Nov 8, 2016
Quoting: HoriStill, this is not the customer's problem or concern.

You're absolutely right, but I was more speaking from the dev' viewpoint here (i.e. he only gets 70% of 4000€ ~ 20.000€ depending on how optimistic you are toward Linux sales). :)

NB: just to be clear, I've really nothing against this dev' who seems to be a nice guy from what I could see on the Steam's forum where people were asking for a Linux port. :)
wolfyrion Nov 8, 2016
well I dont know if these stats are correct or wrong...but check this out

Steam Marines has been in a Humble Bundle -> The Return of Space Boy Bundle <- for $1
Published 14 months ago

I dont know if that time was a Linux Build Released or not
checking the Linux depot --> Last Update about a year ago (August 21, 2015 – 13:22:24 UTC)

So how sales are calculated ??? Based on Bundle purchases?? or from Purchases that were not in bundle?
So having in mind that this game was published in 2013 for Windows and maybe mac and in 2015 it was released for Linux gaining 2% profit for a 3 year old game just from Linux users I consider it very good.

Maybe some users have already bought the bundle as well and wanted a port to Linux since they already had the game for $1.
Everything is a bit confusing

If you want to show real stats you have to release your game in day 1 for all platforms and the last day before you bundle your game you push out sales stats. That will show you the real percentage of each platform sales.


Last edited by wolfyrion on 8 November 2016 at 5:22 pm UTC
MaCroX95 Nov 8, 2016
Well I think the Mac is bigger problem here than Linux, there is a lot bigger marketshare on Mac's side and he sold only 1% more to them than to us. And the thing is that thte game has been out 1 year less for us, so practically if he gets 2% sales in a lifetime 2 times shorter than the Release of Windows version (some Linux users also perhaps got it on the Windows before) that would mean that sales would be much higher if that was day 1 support :) I mean a lot of people dual boot and some buy game on Windows but prefer Linux and then developers don't get the right information if they don't provide day 1 support for all platforms... and since he literally had no problems with technical support to Linux users, porting the game was basically only thing to do (which is not that hard with modern engines), so all in all I believe that still, it is worth to him :)

https://gyazo.com/5f61ee82080f8bb3d41fe4b3b9e32d91

And yeah, Mac users are responsible for majority of tech issues :)


Last edited by MaCroX95 on 8 November 2016 at 5:35 pm UTC
Leopard Nov 8, 2016
What is that smug developer?

Just because you're supporting Linux and Mac people won't buy your shitty game.

When Witcher 3,Skyrim and Doom like AAA games comes to SteamOS and Linux people will greatfully buy them.

We don't need your shitty game(s).We're happy with Mad Max,Shadow of Mordor,Civilazition V and stuff like that.

He just sees Linux and Mac users for profit.His goal is not sharing a game's fun with platforms.

To him,Windows users are worthy.We're just leftovers
Liam Dawe Nov 8, 2016
@Leopard that's a really bad attitude to take. They specifically said they will continue to support us even though it's not financially worth it for them. Your attitude undermines us, especially with smaller developers.
hardpenguin Nov 8, 2016
Quoting: LeopardWhat is that smug developer?

Just because you're supporting Linux and Mac people won't buy your shitty game.

When Witcher 3,Skyrim and Doom like AAA games comes to SteamOS and Linux people will greatfully buy them.

We don't need your shitty game(s).We're happy with Mad Max,Shadow of Mordor,Civilazition V and stuff like that.

He just sees Linux and Mac users for profit.His goal is not sharing a game's fun with platforms.

To him,Windows users are worthy.We're just leftovers
You are insane. No matter if it's Civ 5, Deus Ex, Undertale or Stardew Valley, percentage share in sales will always be the same.

The Steam Marines developer actually cared and cares to support Linux and Mac, which are the minority of gaming market. He shared his numbers publicly. He contributes to the community that way. And this is what you think of him?

And what did you do to make our small gaming niche better?

Shame.
MaCroX95 Nov 8, 2016
People like @Leopard are throwing bad light on our community. the developer just said that it is not worth financially to support Mac & Linux and by that I believe that he specifically meant Mac more because he had more than 50% tech issues with them and only 3% sales the other hand he actually was happy with Linux users not having as many tech issues which probably told him that Linux is quite stable platform and if he makes his games well, they will definitely work very well and Linux community knows how to set things up and don't blame developers for every little bug that might not be caused anyhow by developer's fault. I think that his choice of supporting us eventhough it's not really a huge profit is very big and shows clearly that he is interested in better gaming as a whole so that is really what Linux community needs, approval as a gaming platform and an open-minded approach to gaming by as many developers as possible!
sarmad Nov 8, 2016
It's good that Linux userbase didn't require much support. It'll encourage developers to support the platform as it wouldn't cost them much (considering they are using an engine that already has Linux support).
edo Nov 8, 2016
why is he complaining? 2% is a great number coming from less than 1% of the users

Btw, I already have the game, I got it from an humble bundle. Is he also counting the linux sales from there? I just almost never buy simple indie games directly from steam, I get them from bundles.


Last edited by edo on 8 November 2016 at 7:09 pm UTC
Ehvis Nov 8, 2016
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Quoting: MaCroX95People like @Leopard are throwing bad light on our community.

In Dutch we have a saying (can't think of an English equivalent) which says something like: people see others as they are themselves. It appears to be much too applicable on the internet. If only people spent as much time informing themselves as they do bitching about others.
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