After the recent upset caused by Canonical's plan to drop 32bit support in Ubuntu, then to turn around and change their plan due to the uproar caused by it, Valve now have a full statement out about their future support of Linux gaming.
Firstly, to get it out of the way, there's nothing to worry about here. Valve said they "remain committed to supporting Linux as a gaming platform", they're also "continuing to drive numerous driver and feature development efforts that we expect will help improve the gaming and desktop experience across all distributions" which they plan to talk more about later.
On the subject of Canonical's newer plan for Ubuntu 19.10 and onwards in regards to 32bit support, Valve said they're "not particularly excited about the removal of any existing functionality, but such a change to the plan is extremely welcome" and that it "seems likely that we will be able to continue to officially support Steam on Ubuntu".
However Arch Linux, Manjaro, Pop!_OS and Fedora all got direct mentions in this statement, when talking about how the Linux gaming landscape has changed and how there's a lot more options to have a good gaming experience. Valve said they will be working "closer" with more distributions but they have nothing to announce just yet on what exact distributions they will be officially supporting in future.
Also, if you're working on a distribution and you need a direct line with Valve, they suggested using this link.
You can see the full statement from Valve here.
Fantastic news, I will be completely honest, there was that little worry in the back of my mind that Valve would start pulling back but why would they? They've put a ridiculous amount of resources into our smaller platform, things have improved an astonishing amount since Steam arrived on Linux back in 2013 and it sounds like things will continue getting better.
I understand they have SteamOS which is based on Debian or uBuntu, but honestly I don't know anyone who uses SteamOS rather than a regular distribution for their games these days. Most, if not all Linux users would rather use his/hers/it's favourite distribution.
I feel broader Linux support is the best choice.
Just my opinion of course.
Now they just need to fix the bug which prevents my monitor going to sleep (idle) if steam app is open! :lol:
Last edited by BlackBloodRum on 27 June 2019 at 11:01 am UTC
Quoting: LinasDebian Testing doesn't security updates in a timely manner. Experimental is not a branch of the ditro you can install, it is only a bunch of packages that you can install (preferably on a Sid system) if you dare to do so.Quoting: SalvatosDebian Testing is also a good choice. It's basically the same system under the hood, so it's not even that much of a change. And Debian Testing is a rolling distribution with packages that are fairly up-to-date. And if you need bleeding edge, there is Debian Unstable. And even Experimental if you are really adventurous. :)Quoting: Mountain ManAt this point, what is the best Ubuntu alternative?Depends on what you're after. I left Ubuntu after they forced too many UI decisions I didn't like, so Mint was a natural choice for me. Similar look and feel to good old Ubuntu + Gnome.
The biggest difference is that Debian is much less opinionated than Ubuntu, Mint, and other derivatives. They don't have the Debian desktop experience, but rather ship upstream packages. So you get vanilla GNOME, vanilla KDE, etc. with minimal branding from Debian.
I personally would either go for Stable (if you can live with outdated packages and/or need the stability of package versions), or Sid/Unstable with apt-listbugs installed and a look at Debian forums for possible problems before updating the system.
Quoting: TobiSGDWhat about Debian Stable + backports repo? I believe it provides everything you need for gaming, the only issue I have is outdated Firefox, and Firefox Snap looks so ugly on Debian Stable I even made a bug report.Quoting: LinasDebian Testing doesn't security updates in a timely manner. Experimental is not a branch of the ditro you can install, it is only a bunch of packages that you can install (preferably on a Sid system) if you dare to do so.Quoting: SalvatosDebian Testing is also a good choice. It's basically the same system under the hood, so it's not even that much of a change. And Debian Testing is a rolling distribution with packages that are fairly up-to-date. And if you need bleeding edge, there is Debian Unstable. And even Experimental if you are really adventurous. :)Quoting: Mountain ManAt this point, what is the best Ubuntu alternative?Depends on what you're after. I left Ubuntu after they forced too many UI decisions I didn't like, so Mint was a natural choice for me. Similar look and feel to good old Ubuntu + Gnome.
The biggest difference is that Debian is much less opinionated than Ubuntu, Mint, and other derivatives. They don't have the Debian desktop experience, but rather ship upstream packages. So you get vanilla GNOME, vanilla KDE, etc. with minimal branding from Debian.
I personally would either go for Stable (if you can live with outdated packages and/or need the stability of package versions), or Sid/Unstable with apt-listbugs installed and a look at Debian forums for possible problems before updating the system.
QuoteArch Linux, Manjaro, Pop!_OS and FedoraOS from geeks for geeks; Same with their unnecessary assemblies; Same Ubuntu. Team of ~ 20 people; Test stand.
When will Valve take care of its distribution? How long will we wait for a normal distribution? :(
Quoting: bird_or_cageIf mesa is in the backports repository, and it seems to be, that that should work, yes. Totally forgot about backports.Quoting: TobiSGDWhat about Debian Stable + backports repo? I believe it provides everything you need for gaming, the only issue I have is outdated Firefox, and Firefox Snap looks so ugly on Debian Stable I even made a bug report.Quoting: LinasDebian Testing doesn't security updates in a timely manner. Experimental is not a branch of the ditro you can install, it is only a bunch of packages that you can install (preferably on a Sid system) if you dare to do so.Quoting: SalvatosDebian Testing is also a good choice. It's basically the same system under the hood, so it's not even that much of a change. And Debian Testing is a rolling distribution with packages that are fairly up-to-date. And if you need bleeding edge, there is Debian Unstable. And even Experimental if you are really adventurous. :)Quoting: Mountain ManAt this point, what is the best Ubuntu alternative?Depends on what you're after. I left Ubuntu after they forced too many UI decisions I didn't like, so Mint was a natural choice for me. Similar look and feel to good old Ubuntu + Gnome.
The biggest difference is that Debian is much less opinionated than Ubuntu, Mint, and other derivatives. They don't have the Debian desktop experience, but rather ship upstream packages. So you get vanilla GNOME, vanilla KDE, etc. with minimal branding from Debian.
I personally would either go for Stable (if you can live with outdated packages and/or need the stability of package versions), or Sid/Unstable with apt-listbugs installed and a look at Debian forums for possible problems before updating the system.
Quoting: GuestBut you know... have you considered debian?Debian and Manjora are the two I'm leaning towards if I were to change.
Quoting: GuestQuoteKWin is windows manager for KDE, the changes will introduce better handling of games in fullscreen and address issues with game windows.
Does it basically mean all Steam games will ask kwin to disable compositing (most games do but not all), because of the fact kwin does not unredirect fullscreen windows like mutter (kwin devs designed it differently) ?
Here's the blog-site of the guy who works on kwin for Valve:
https://subdiff.org/blog/2019/new-website-new-company-new-partners-new-code/
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