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Seems Valve do intend to go back to SteamOS at some point

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SteamOS, the Valve-made Linux distribution that was originally for the failed Steam Machine initiative has gradually vanished into the sidelines but it seems it won't be forever.

A while ago, we did see indications that Valve would work on SteamOS 3.0 "Clockwerk" back in 2018 but they've still been very quiet on it since apart from a few minor package updates to SteamOS 2 "Brewmaster".

Valve have been extremely active on other fronts though of course. As a quick bit of history: for Linux they put out Steam Play Proton, the ACO shader compiler for AMD, this new Steam Linux Runtime container system, the micro-compositor Gamescope and there's more with people working on all sorts under contract for Valve to improve Linux.

Still, SteamOS though, what are Valve going to do with it? Sounds like when they go back to it eventually, it might not be Debian-based. In a GitHub issue on the SteamOS page about it "languishing", another user replied with an email from Valve developer Pierre-Loup A. Griffais:

Yes, definitely lots of work still going on. Right now the focus is on core technology itself rather than distributing it, but we intend to get back to that in the future. I wouldn't expect much more movement on Debian-based Brewmaster at this point, however.

"Debian-based Brewmaster"—huh? Speculation here, but that sounds like they might be looking at a different base for whatever SteamOS 3.0 turns into.

One day then, we can clearly expect to see some movement on SteamOS once Valve get all the pieces of the Linux gaming puzzle into a state where they're truly happy with properly pushing it again. Perhaps, this will be after we finally find out what the heck Steam Cloud Gaming(#1, #2) turns out to be? Whenever we find out, we will of course let you know.

Thanks for the tag, mdeguzis.

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Mohandevir 25 Mar
scratchi
TimeFreezeWhats all that talk about Debian vs Arch? We all know Valve will base the next SteamOS on Gentoo :P

Agreed :)

ChromeOS uses Gentoo, so maybe Valve is looking at a similar approach (Steam Cloud and all).

Which comes to this... Again:

https://www.pcgamer.com/steam-is-coming-to-googles-chrome-os/

Why not?! :)
dubigrasu 25 Mar
Well, they did said at one point that Debian tools gave them too much headache, so they might search for something else.
(that's how I remember it, so don't quote me on that)

They also said about future SteamOS being possibly image-based (not apt/etc) for better control and consistency, so whatever distro will be based on won't likely be a plain Arch/Debian/whatever with an "SteamOS" sticker slapped on it.
Mohandevir 25 Mar
dubigrasuWell, they did said at one point that Debian tools gave them too much headache, so they might search for something else.
(that's how I remember it, so don't quote me on that)

P-L Griffais effectively said something along those lines; I remember reading the same too.

dubigrasuThey also said about future SteamOS being possibly image-based
That's exactly GamerOS' model.


Last edited by Mohandevir on 25 March 2020 at 3:35 pm UTC
dubigrasu 25 Mar
Mohandevir
dubigrasuThey also said about future SteamOS being possibly image-based
That's exactly GamerOS' model.
Indeed, and for those missing on SteamOS, it is a good alternative.
I also like what its dev said a couple of times about GamerOS (probably not an exact quote, but close):
"If you'll ever have to use the mouse and keyboard on GamerOS, then I failed in my mission"

For mouse and keyboard warriors out there, that doesn't mean you can't use them on GamerOS, but just that it strives to provide a flawless console-like experience.
Mohandevir 25 Mar
dubigrasu
Mohandevir
dubigrasuThey also said about future SteamOS being possibly image-based
That's exactly GamerOS' model.
Indeed, and for those missing on SteamOS, it is a good alternative.
I also like what its dev said a couple of times about GamerOS (probably not an exact quote, but close):
"If you'll ever have to use the mouse and keyboard on GamerOS, then I failed in my mission"

For mouse and keyboard warriors out there, that doesn't mean you can't use them on GamerOS, but just that it strives to provide a flawless console-like experience.

It might just be a foolish and uneducated tought of my own, but at some point, I began to think/hope that Valve would/could make GamerOS it's own, just like they did with DXVK, and work with Alkazar for the maintenance/development of the thing. Imo, GamerOS is probably the closest thing to what SteamOS strives to be.


Last edited by Mohandevir on 25 March 2020 at 3:54 pm UTC
I just hope they make a proper Half-Life sequel at some point.
Shmerl 25 Mar
Not sure what problem they are having with the Debian base. It's pretty solid and allows easy customization.


Last edited by Shmerl on 25 March 2020 at 3:49 pm UTC
dubigrasu 25 Mar
@Mohandevir

Could be...who knows.
GamerOS two main devs (Alkazar and Shark) are practically on fire and keep adding features that I would've loved back then to see added to SteamOS proper.
Steam-buddy for example: https://github.com/gamer-os/steam-buddy

Actually...now that I think about it SteamOS had something similar at one point, but it was removed eventually.


Last edited by dubigrasu on 25 March 2020 at 4:16 pm UTC
cusa123 25 Mar
I'm willing to give up ubuntu for steamOs if an economic vr comes along with titles. It's time!
lrj71 25 Mar
Ok, I'm going to go a different route. I think SteamOS should be based on Pop!_OS. Based on Ubuntu, installers for nVidia and AMD graphics, modern desktop, highly configurable, stable, backed by System76.
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