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AMD slides show Zen 4 CPUs and RDNA 3 GPUs before 2022

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AMD has released their latest set of slides going over the roadmap and it has some interesting tidbits inside.

We already knew that both their next-gen Zen 3 processor architecture and the RDNA 2 GPU architecture was due this year, as they confirmed before but now we have a little bit of detail about future hardware. This info comes from a new AMD Corporate presentation that appeared somewhat recently on their Investor Relations site.

There were some rumours going around that Zen 3 was moved to a more advanced process but the slides confirm it's sticking with 7nm. It also shows their current aggressive schedule to have Zen 4 out on the more advanced 5nm before 2022.

Further into the presentation it also goes over the GPU plans which are as equally exciting. RDNA 2 as we knew is also 7nm with Ray Tracing support, Variable Rate Shading and more. Additionally it mentions RDNA 3 will be on an "Advanced Node" but it doesn't go into extra detail on that but going by their slides we're expecting another big performance bump along with it.

AMD has been on a roll in the last few years, continually beating at Intel's door to take some market share and it's probable this will continue for some time. It's good to see them being competitive, it's better for us all. What are your hopes for the upcoming hardware? Will you be buying any of it? Let us know.

In other AMD news, don't miss the awesome AMD Wattman-like open source app CoreCtrl that we covered recently here on GOL. AMD also mentioned recently their plans to get Zen 3 supported on older motherboards.

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Dedale 11 Jun
Like many, i lust over zen 2/3. I will upgrade when it will be sensible to do so. Like when i will earn a little bit of money.
kaiman 11 Jun
I'm contemplating an upgrade towards the end of this or early next year. So this hopefully means ZEN 3 and RDNA 2 for me.

Though truth be told, I'll either have to opt for pricier components, or I won't see the same boost in performance as last time around, when I went from a Core 2 Duo E7200 to an i5 4460 and from a Geforce 9600GT to the GTX950. But waiting 'til 2022 doesn't sound so appealing right now. Unless Cyberpunk 2077 turns out to be a shooter ;-). In that case I might as well bide my time ...
That's next year!
I remember reading years ago that circuit sizes were, or would be, starting to run into fundamental physical problems in being basically just too thin to keep the little electrons from wandering between what's trying to be separate "wires". But they still keep shrinking things, 5nm coming up . . . I wonder if at this point the actual shrinkage is smaller than the change in definition makes it seem just because if they pack any closer things stop working.
Linuxwarper 11 Jun
I am not interested in RDNA2 (mid range) if it's going to be priced as RX 5000 series. Those prices are lousy and are result of mining and Nvidia increasing the price after that ended and citing RTX as the selling point. AMD followed Nvidia's lead and priced 5000 series accordingly but slightly more competitive. Intel entering the market can't happen soon enough. They sell GPUs to Sony, Microsoft and Google at reasonable prices while we consumers have to wait longer to get our hands on new GPUs, and we have to pay more..

Last edited by Linuxwarper on 11 June 2020 at 10:14 pm UTC
CatKiller 11 Jun
Quoting: Purple Library GuyI remember reading years ago that circuit sizes were, or would be, starting to run into fundamental physical problems in being basically just too thin to keep the little electrons from wandering between what's trying to be separate "wires".

That already happened. It's why we have multiple cores rather than faster processors. We got to 3 GHz pretty quickly, and then slowly managed to crawl up to sometimes, maybe, for brief periods, getting close to 5 GHz over the course of two decades.

As you scale things down if you want to switch faster then you need a lower switching voltage. But, as it turns out, low voltages with small features are the same as the voltages that just leak out on their own, so your 1s and 0s become indistinguishable from each other.

QuoteBut they still keep shrinking things, 5nm coming up . . .

Not easily. Intel have been failing to do 10 nm for years. Features are etched by focusing light through a mask, and there's a limit to how much you can focus light. We passed the point where features were smaller than the wavelength of the light being used a while back, and lenses are opaque to light with shorter wavelengths, so you need to focus it with other methods instead.

QuoteI wonder if at this point the actual shrinkage is smaller than the change in definition makes it seem just because if they pack any closer things stop working.

The manufacturing process node name used to refer to the size of the features. Then the size of the smallest feature. Then a size that was a bit like the size of the features. And then it didn't really mean anything, except which generation of process a particular semiconductor was made with.

TSMC's 12 nm is about as dense as Intel's 14 nm - how many things you can fit on a chip of a given size. Both of them get various numbers of pluses for how much you can squeeze them without changing the fundamental process, since switching to a new process is both hard and very expensive. TSMC's 7 nm is about the same as the 10 nm that Intel didn't really get to work. TSMC's 5 nm will probably be about the same as an Intel 7 nm, if either manage it. The light used for it will probably be Extreme Ultra-Violet.
jarhead_h 12 Jun
I've been bouncing around about what to upgrade next. I'm either buying 64GB of DDR4 3600 or I'm buying a 3950X or I'm buying a ASUS PG43UQ 43” 4K HDR1000 monitor - depends on the tax return. I'm starting a Youtube channel so need the video editing capability for the Cannon EOS 200D footage and I still want DOOM Eternal to look amazing, so compromised on a very large gaming monitor with full HDR support that will handle a increased camera resolution should the should channel become profitable enough to buy a 4K camera. I've already decided on the new Big NAVI whenever AMD gets it launched, so I won't be playing anything AAA in 4K until then because I'm still running a GTX1060. Then I'm going to go with a fresh Fedora32 install.

I'm kinda feeling on the fence about the 3950X. Kinda wondering what Zen3 is going to look like and what the $700 will buy me out of that lineup that will plug into this Asrock board I bought in January. Unless they drop the price of the 3950 down to $575 or something to get rid of them.

Last edited by jarhead_h on 12 June 2020 at 4:30 am UTC
poisond 12 Jun
Looking forward to ZEN3, gonna upgrade to 4900X depending on single-threaded performance.
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