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During the PlayStation 5 reveal recently, Neostream Interactive had their 2015 crowdfunded title Little Devil Inside shown off as a timed exclusive and they've now clarified their plans for platforms.

The timed exclusive deal caused a bit of a ruckus with backers, with quite a few angry comments aimed at the developers. However, according to what they said, this PlayStation 5 timed exclusive deal will not be affecting the release of the PC version so they're still firmly aiming for a concurrent launch on PC - the exclusive deal only affects console.

After reaching out to Neostream directly, they mentioned to me today that the Linux version is still planned to launch alongside Windows, "We'll be trying to get it to Linux at the same time as Windows. We will be clarifying again on all the precise platforms soon.".

Here's their brand new trailer, see below:

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They've also seen some controversy elsewhere. In the trailer at about 0:46, you can see characters chasing the protagonist wearing masks. Apparently this caused a stir as some claimed it was a racial stereotype. The team released a statement on Facebook to apologize and they will be adjusting that model to remove the dreadlocks, change their "bold lips", skin tone and change the dart blower "so it looks less like a joint".

When we hear more about a Linux PC release date we will let you know.

We missed this one on our dedicated Crowdfinding Page, so it has been added today. It's now hit 350 projects being listed and still more to add yet.

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Eike 4 Jul
Quoting: DrMcCoy
Quoting: EikeYour "argument" has not been convincing.

It wasn't an argument. It was a dismissal.

So what millions of powerless white supremacists are doing is not racism because they are powerless?
Absolution to them, I hear you?
DrMcCoy 4 Jul
White supremacists aren't powerless, they have structural power in society. All of "western society" is build to serve white people, so even the ones personally powerless are still empowered in day to day life. See all the white people being able to brandish guns unmolested in public in the US, while black people are shot just for holding their wallet in hand.

Please, do some research first.

I can recommend a few books, in German even:
  • Noah Sow, "Deutschland Schwarz Weiß"

  • Alice Hasters, "Was weiße Menschen nicht über Rassismus hören wollen: aber wissen sollten"

  • Reni Eddo-Lodge, "Warum ich nicht länger mit Weißen über Hautfarbe spreche" (To be fair, that one is a translation. The original title is "Why I’m No Longer Talking to White People About Race")

Eike 4 Jul
Quoting: DrMcCoyWhite supremacists aren't powerless, they have structural power in society.

... and if they wouldn't, thinking the very same wouldn't be racism?
Sorry, this is nonsense.
Racism is a way of thinking and while it's obviously more dangerous with power, the thinking stays the same without, and deserves the very same name.

And no, I'm not getting some books to find something to prove your point. If you find anything that says that racism is not racism without power, feel invited to cite it.

PS: "ok boomer" is by far not the quality of messages I'm used to from you.


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DrMcCoy 4 Jul
There's no point arguing against an uninformed position. Hence the dismissal.
mirv 4 Jul
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Quoting: Eike
Quoting: DrMcCoyWhite supremacists aren't powerless, they have structural power in society.

... and if they wouldn't, thinking the very same wouldn't be racism?
Sorry, this is nonsense.
Racism is a way of thinking and while it's obviously more dangerous with power, the thinking stays the same without, and deserves the very same name.

And no, I'm not getting some books to find something to prove your point. If you find anything that says that racism is not racism without power, feel invited to cite it.

PS: "ok boomer" is by far not the quality of messages I'm used to from you.

I really should stay away from such hot topics, but....anyway, racism from a dictionary definition description can be tweaked, but unfortunately it's actually devoid of meaning without the social context to give it power. Race itself is a social construct, with no basis in science or fact itself, and so racism becomes something only with definition of society giving it power.

Without backing power therefore, I would argue that prejudice is a better word than racism. Anyone can be prejudiced based on differences in the amount of melanin in one's skin, and there can be historical good and bad reasons behind that no doubt, but no you can't really be racist if you've no power to enforce that prejudice on others.

Basically, any discussion about who is racist or not has to include and factor in the power and hierarchy dynamics of social groups.
Eike 5 Jul
Quoting: mirvI really should stay away from such hot topics, but....

I'm happy when there's someone able to actually discuss stuff. The worst about DrMcCoy here was his attitude about his favorite definition, like "I'm right, everybody seeing it differently is wrong and has to inform themselves, ok boomer, I'm out (but I'm still right)". (And yes, I'm still surprised and disappointed to read something like that from him.)

Quoting: mirvanyway, racism from a dictionary definition description can be tweaked, but unfortunately it's actually devoid of meaning without the social context to give it power. Race itself is a social construct, with no basis in science or fact itself, and so racism becomes something only with definition of society giving it power.

Without backing power therefore, I would argue that prejudice is a better word than racism. Anyone can be prejudiced based on differences in the amount of melanin in one's skin, and there can be historical good and bad reasons behind that no doubt, but no you can't really be racist if you've no power to enforce that prejudice on others.

Basically, any discussion about who is racist or not has to include and factor in the power and hierarchy dynamics of social groups.

That way of defining racism would lead to absurd consequences: If the racist side would lose its power, they would suddenly stop being racist, despite feeling the same way based on the same construct.

In my opinion, we should differentiate between say racist persons, racist ideas and a racist system. The latter obviously cannot be in place without power, but the racist person with racist ideas stays the same no matter if gaining, losing or never having any powers. They can be racist alone on an island.

It seems to me some people are trying to put too much into a single word, which just needs some more words. (I met the same with the word "peace", which according to some doesn't mean the absence of war, or violence, but seemingly free cake to everybody as well.)


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mirv 5 Jul
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Quoting: Eike
Quoting: mirvI really should stay away from such hot topics, but....
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Please don't reply to me to complain about someone else. I don't mean that in any emotional way, but it's not conducive to the point, and if in the end the comments are cleaned up it makes things so much more difficult.

Quoting: Eike
Quoting: mirvanyway, racism from a dictionary definition description can be tweaked, but unfortunately it's actually devoid of meaning without the social context to give it power. Race itself is a social construct, with no basis in science or fact itself, and so racism becomes something only with definition of society giving it power.

Without backing power therefore, I would argue that prejudice is a better word than racism. Anyone can be prejudiced based on differences in the amount of melanin in one's skin, and there can be historical good and bad reasons behind that no doubt, but no you can't really be racist if you've no power to enforce that prejudice on others.

Basically, any discussion about who is racist or not has to include and factor in the power and hierarchy dynamics of social groups.

That way of defining racism would lead to absurd consequences: If the racist side would lose its power, they would suddenly stop being racist, despite feeling the same way based on the same construct.

In my opinion, we should differentiate between say racist persons, racist ideas and a racist system. The latter obviously cannot be in place without power, but the racist person with racist ideas stays the same no matter if gaining, losing or never having any powers.

If a racist side loses its power, they are still prejudiced (and I would include some other, less kind words in non-public settings), but I suggest that racism and power cannot be divorced from each other.
Racism obviously has overtones of unwanted, unacceptable behaviour. As a thought exercise however: if someone has prejudicial thinking, but does not carry out discrimination, are they racist?
On the flip side, if someone carries out discrimination but are not consciously aware of it, are they racist?

And then, let's go a step further. If someone is discriminating against another based upon ethnic or racial grounds, what if it's because they've been oppressed are are looking to restore some balance? I mean, if some has been a slave because of the colour of their skin, and then chooses to stay away from others resembling their oppressors, are they then being racist?

It's not quite so simple to resolve such things in any kind of short terms. This makes heavy reading and discussion on the matter quite critical, and why, in my view, one cannot simply divorce racism from power.
Eike 5 Jul
Quoting: mirvRacism obviously has overtones of unwanted, unacceptable behaviour. As a thought exercise however: if someone has prejudicial thinking, but does not carry out discrimination, are they racist?

Yes. Racism is a way of thinking (which often leads to a way of acting, of course).

Quoting: mirvOn the flip side, if someone carries out discrimination but are not consciously aware of it, are they racist?

(Discrimination base on colour and stuff you mean, I guess.) Yes, I think so, and yes, that might mean that many people are racist which would strongly and in good conscience deny it. (I'm not talking about those "I'm not a racist, but..." people here!)

Quoting: mirvAnd then, let's go a step further. If someone is discriminating against another based upon ethnic or racial grounds, what if it's because they've been oppressed are are looking to restore some balance? I mean, if some has been a slave because of the colour of their skin, and then chooses to stay away from others resembling their oppressors, are they then being racist?

That's a tough question I don't have clear answer for. What would be yours?
But, adressing the elephant in the room: People of colour can be racists, too.

Quoting: mirvIt's not quite so simple to resolve such things in any kind of short terms. This makes heavy reading and discussion on the matter quite critical, and why, in my view, one cannot simply divorce racism from power.

I don't say it's simple, I'm saying mixing everything into a single term is often not the answer, and in this case, it isn't either. Why not talk about racist people (people thinking their group would be superior based on their idea of a "race") and a racist system (many racist people oppressing other people they consider being of another "race")? It avoids the problems with mixing all into one term, like giving different terms to two people thinking exactly the same (racist) thing of one another.

Cramming too much in a word makes conversation harder, not easier.


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mirv 5 Jul
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Quoting: Eike
Quoting: mirvRacism obviously has overtones of unwanted, unacceptable behaviour. As a thought exercise however: if someone has prejudicial thinking, but does not carry out discrimination, are they racist?

Yes. Racism is a way of thinking (which often leads to a way of acting, of course).

Fair enough. We'll have to (respectfully, of course!) disagree here - I view racism as (to quote something I read) as:
racism = racial prejudice + power
(I'll also note that apparently the United Nations doesn't define racism, but does define racial discrimination, so I'm going to say that personal interpretation of the term "racism" is probably ok here!)

[quote=Eike]
Quoting: mirvOn the flip side, if someone carries out discrimination but are not consciously aware of it, are they racist?

(Discrimination base on colour and stuff you mean, I guess.) Yes, I think so, and yes, that might mean that many people are racist which would strongly and in good conscience deny it. (I'm not talking about those "I'm not a racist, but..." people here!)
QuoteThis is a really tough one. Based on personal upbringing and experiences, I believe I'm highly prejudiced against a certain group, even though I actively try not to be (which basically means I do inwardly, and possibly outwardly, change behaviour based on something racial). Which makes me worry that I am, in fact, slightly racist even when I despise such things. So basically it means the very, very best I can say about myself is that I'm prejudiced but try not to be discriminatory.

[quote=Eike]
Quoting: mirvAnd then, let's go a step further. If someone is discriminating against another based upon ethnic or racial grounds, what if it's because they've been oppressed are are looking to restore some balance? I mean, if some has been a slave because of the colour of their skin, and then chooses to stay away from others resembling their oppressors, are they then being racist?

That's a tough question I don't have clear answer for. What would be yours?
But, adressing the elephant in the room: People of colour can be racists, too.
I don't have a clear answer either, but it is why I (personally) can't remove the topic of power from racism. It makes such a difference.
Oh, and yeah, anybody can be racist. I wouldn't say it's balanced, but it's definitely not exclusive to "white" people.

Quoting: Eike
Quoting: mirvIt's not quite so simple to resolve such things in any kind of short terms. This makes heavy reading and discussion on the matter quite critical, and why, in my view, one cannot simply divorce racism from power.

I don't say it's simple, I'm saying mixing everything into a single term is often not the answer, and in this case, it isn't either. Why not talk about racist people (people thinking their group would be superior based on their idea of a "race") and a racist system (many racist people oppressing other people they consider being of another "race")? It avoids the problems with mixing all into one term, like giving different terms to two people thinking exactly the same (racist) thing of one another.

Cramming too much in a word makes conversation harder, not easier.

Yeah, can't cram too much into one word. That's why I've been trying to use prejudice, discrimination, but yeah should probably talk more on the "system" (because that's where much of the social power and problems will stem from probably - removing the power inequality from the system won't remove racism, but it's a bloody good start).
Eike 5 Jul
I'm all fine with respectfully disagreeing...

Quoting: mirvremoving the power inequality from the system won't remove racism, but it's a bloody good start

... and won't even try to find better closing words than these.
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