Join us on our own very special Reddit: /r/Linuxers

It's never fun to have to write about things like this but it needs to be highlighted. Lab Zero Games, developer on titles like Skullgirls and Indivisible seem to be a sinking ship.

A bunch of their developers have now quit together, from what I've seen this appears to be more than half their staff. Why? The theme here appears to be Lab Zero Games owner, Mike Zaimont, who appears to create an unsafe working environment and does not treat staff fairly.

The issue runs deep it appears, as Zaimont was previously accused (Kotaku) of various inappropriate comments, these included gross sexual messages to people and racist jokes (for which he did apologise). This led to an apparent agreement that Zaimont would leave but it appears Zaimont is sticking around and generally making things terrible for staff so it's led to this. Back in July, the official Lab Zero account on Twitter even mentioned they were aware of "allegations" made about Zaimont, with a full statement mentioned to come soon—which didn't happen.

People that have left include Jonathan Kim the now former senior animator, who mentioned the ongoing problems including bullying from Zaimont. Additionally Mariel Kinuko Cartwright, the now former Creative Director on Indivisible and Lead Animator on Skullgirls has also left with a statement to back it up and the list of people continues on and on. More has come out of this, with Brandon Sheffield who was the lead writer on Indivisible for Lab Zero, posting on Twitter that they cut ties with them "almost two months ago" as a result of Zaimont's behaviour.

The Linux and macOS versions of their games may also have issues going forwards now (if any of them are updated again after this, that is), as the volunteer developer responsible for maintaining these versions of Skillgirls and Indivisible, Renaud 'cybik' Lepage has also disengaged from Lab Zero.

On top of that a statement was released from Hidden Variable and Autumn Games, mentioning that they will be cutting ties with Lab Zero Games and Mike Zaimont. Autumn Games are actually the IP holders for Skullgirls, so hopefully a fresh development team can be sorted to continue the PC version. In their statement they did mention they hoped to work with the staff leaving.

Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
Tags: Misc | Apps: Skullgirls, Indivisible
15 Likes, Who?
We do often include affiliate links to earn us some pennies. We are currently affiliated with GOG, Humble Store and Paradox Interactive. See more here.
About the author -
author picture
I am the owner of GamingOnLinux. After discovering Linux back in the days of Mandrake in 2003, I constantly came back to check on the progress of Linux until Ubuntu appeared on the scene and it helped me to really love it. You can reach me easily by emailing GamingOnLinux directly.
See more from me
56 comments
Page: «2/6»
  Go to:

Quoting: PatolaStill doesn't justify lynching the person, even if we assume they are guilty. Again, due legal process.
Lynching means something, to call this sort of thing lynching is just gross. This is private individuals using their freedom of speech to call out an employer's behavior and make public statements. There's no legal process involved because this is how speech is supposed to work.

Complaining about "cancel culture" comes across as saying, "Some people should not be subject to repercussions or public criticism for their actions."
F.Ultra 25 Aug
Quoting: ElectroDDIsn't Kotaku known to be biased about issues like racism and such ?
I'd be cautious to use Kotaku as a source on the subject...
I'd even go as far as disregarding them. Thus making this story like that.

I've read part of the senior animator letter, and that's the typical snowflake fake complain when things don't go their way.
Could be true, could be false, but currently, the trend is false accusation everywhere on those peculiar subjects for revenge.

Biased about racism? You do know that the alternative would be "pro racism" right?!
Patola 25 Aug
Quoting: Chuckaluphagus
Quoting: PatolaStill doesn't justify lynching the person, even if we assume they are guilty. Again, due legal process.
Lynching means something, to call this sort of thing lynching is just gross. This is private individuals using their freedom of speech to call out an employer's behavior and make public statements. There's no legal process involved because this is how speech is supposed to work.

These private individuals acting in concert and contributing to get that guy out of the market by using current sensibilities of businesses seems pretty much a virtual lynching to me. It might not be illegal, but the outcome of these actions is rarely if ever fair, proportional or deserved.

Quoting: ChuckaluphagusComplaining about "cancel culture" comes across as saying, "Some people should not be subject to repercussions or public criticism for their actions."

And by the way, which actions are those? Some quite vague accusations (which might be difficult to substantiate other than with agreeing testimonies -- still a very weak evidence) of some mildly inane personal behavior? Is this enough for public condemnation? And again, what about the still unpublicized other side of the coin, are you aware of the counterarguments to weigh them in or you don't think they are needed, you only need to take into account the discontent former employees? We don't know everything involved, and this public judgment is already harming the guy, he has already been "exposed" and is losing business opportunities. What now if he's innocent and it was indeed some kind of libel? Even if he sues for reparation, it will be unlikely that he can ever get enough compensation for that.

This is cancel culture. Condemn first, ruin the dude's life first, ruin all business opportunities and create a stigma that will follow him all his life. Then maybe in the future if he'll be judged innocent no news will be told, because it is not interesting. That's why there is such a thing as due legal process. Even a person suspect of the worst crimes against mankind is still only a suspect: they cannot be punished until they are properly judged.


Last edited by Patola on 25 August 2020 at 2:32 pm UTC
Patola 25 Aug
Quoting: F.UltraBiased about racism? You do know that the alternative would be "pro racism" right?!
No, that's a false dilemma. And I would suggest not to go this way on this thread, this has nothing whatsoever to do with racism and the current topic is controversial enough.


Last edited by Patola on 25 August 2020 at 3:05 pm UTC
rcrit 25 Aug
View PC info
  • Supporter Plus
Quoting: PatolaThis is cancel culture. Condemn first, ruin the dude's life first, ruin all business opportunities and create a stigma that will follow him all his life. Then maybe in the future if he'll be judged innocent no news will be told, because it is not interesting. That's why there is such a thing as due legal process. Even a person suspect of the worst crimes against mankind is still only a suspect: they cannot be punished until they are properly judged.

I guess the question is, how would you suggest this situation be handled differently? I know the U.S. is generally litigious but you don't have to sue every time you are wronged to somehow prove you were wronged.

Those who left felt strongly enough about it to leave in the midst of a pandemic and a 10% unemployment rate in the U.S. That says a lot to me.
mirv 25 Aug
View PC info
  • Supporter Plus
While I've not read through the links on this particular happenstance, there is an unfortunate high proportion of cases that I've personally seen and experienced where this kind of reaction is not sudden, but the result of behaviour that has gone on for a long time.

Companies try to keep it hidden, keep it out of the public eye, and more importantly, try to keep it isolated internally as well. This I can understand - ideally you want to settle it amongst only those directly affected for reasons which I'm sure I don't need to spell out.
However, when there's consistent unacceptable behaviour from an individual, and the company consistently tries to cover it up, and multiple people are involved then quite often the only recourse left is to make a lot of noise and force the issue to be resolved properly.

I'm going to read through this news item in a moment to judge for myself, but sadly a lot of stories have been showing recently how going through "the proper channels" has been doing exactly nothing. All it's been doing is allowing perpetrators to hide behind a human resources department while continuing abuse of others. Getting all this out in the open, while it might in some cases be a little harsher on some (I would predict very few actually) than they deserve, the industry as a whole needs this to happen so that "proper channels" will be fixed.


Last edited by mirv on 25 August 2020 at 3:06 pm UTC
Liam Dawe 25 Aug
Quoting: PatolaNo, that's a false dilemma. And I would suggest not to go this way on this thread, this has nothing whatsoever to do with racism and the current topic is controversial enough.
Did you even read the article and the linked source that talks about past issues? Zaimont thought it was funny to make a racist joke about "I can't breathe". If you don't understand that, and why it's truly shit to joke about it then you must live in a really nice bubble. So yes, Racism does come into it. Stop defending a clear creep and terrible person. You can't just write everything off like this as some form of cancel culture or whatever idiotic term people come up with next to defend terrible people.


Last edited by Liam Dawe on 25 August 2020 at 3:08 pm UTC
kirgahn 25 Aug
Quoting: KibaHe's an asshole, that's for sure, this is the conversation (not as inappropriate as you would think): https://imgur.com/a/EAHadqu
Cancel culture is just witch-hunting, if you got an asshole coworker you can do something about it, it seems like the typical situation in which a guy is being a dick and nobody does nothing about it so he keeps being a dick and also becomes more and more stupid over the time, because nobody does anything.
I have a coworker that likes to sexually touch the people, the same day he touched me i just said him that the next time I would smash his head against the concrete. He never touched me again.

I don't know, looking at the conversation it looks like he's trying too hard to be funny and generally not too good at interacting with a person. Especially since said person is apparently a young, sexy lady who's publicly into kinky stuff (did I get this part right?).

Then again, as others previously said, if half of the staff is quitting over his behavior, I think it's safe to assume that there was something wrong about it that made people uncomfortable.
Quoting: PatolaBut I feel sad for the cries to cancel that individual, it's cancel culture to its fullest. What's wrong with cancelling someone if they deserve it?

What on earth are you talking about? This isn't 'cancel culture', it's half a game studio quitting because their manager is a known abusive sex pest arsehole who should have been fired.

My employment history is deeply varied - from voice acting to nursing to retail - but one thing is 100% consistent: bad managers make working life utter hell for those who have to work under them. There are, generally, three solutions - promote them, fire them, or watch good staff leave. This studio chose option 3.
While you're here, please consider supporting GamingOnLinux on:

Patreon, Liberapay or PayPal Donation.

We have no adverts, no paywalls, no timed exclusive articles. Just good, fresh content. Without your continued support, we simply could not continue!

You can find even more ways to support us on this dedicated page any time. If you already are, thank you!
Login / Register

Or login with...
Sign in with Steam Sign in with Twitter Sign in with Google
Social logins require cookies to stay logged in.