Check out our Monthly Survey Page to see what our users are running.

AMD tease two dates in October for Zen 3 and RDNA 2

By - | Views: 9,866

Are you ready for the next generation of AMD processors and graphics? Well, AMD have two events planned in October so it's time to get excited again.

We don't know exactly what they will announce, as they've only just given us the dates. For Zen 3 their new CPU architecture we're getting something on October 8, and for RDNA 2 their new GPU architecture some event is happening on October 28. Quite a while to wait on both counts, which is a little surprising.

Source - AMD Gaming Twitter, teasing that "A new era of leadership performance across computing and graphics is coming. The journey begins on October 8.".

NVIDIA only just recently announced the RTX 30 series, with them due to release this month so AMD are running quite behind here overall. We knew they were both due to be properly announced this year though, and with the pandemic it probably hasn't been easy for any vendor to keep to their schedules.

This is all especially exciting though! On the CPU side, because AMD are continuing to be extremely competitive on both price and performance while Intel are struggling with smaller processing nodes. So AMD coming back again, with another push forwards is going to be fun to see. On the GPU side though, is where things get even more interesting, partly because this will bring Ray Tracing as well. Having all PC GPU vendors with Ray Tracing should bring it forwards, especially with Intel's new Xe-HPG GPUs coming next year too also with Ray Tracing.

What are you hoping for? Are you excited? Let us know in the comments.

Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
19 Likes, Who?
We do often include affiliate links to earn us some pennies. We are currently affiliated with GOG, Humble Store and Paradox Interactive. See more here.
About the author -
author picture
I am the owner of GamingOnLinux. After discovering Linux back in the days of Mandrake in 2003, I constantly came back to check on the progress of Linux until Ubuntu appeared on the scene and it helped me to really love it. You can reach me easily by emailing GamingOnLinux directly.
See more from me
23 comments
Page: «2/3»
  Go to:

TapocoL 10 Sep
I was still getting gpu driver crashes from time to time on 5700XT. I sold it a month ago to someone on Windows and they haven't had any problems (I told them they could return the GPU if it was hardware and was problematic for them). I was switching between mesa stable/mesa-git, aco/llvm, amdvlk/radv and linux stable/rc candidates, but it was never fully stable for me. My plan is to get RDNA2 as it would be good to get great performance on 1440p again (RX 580 only on lighter games has solid FPS).


Last edited by TapocoL on 10 September 2020 at 1:44 am UTC
yokem55 10 Sep
View PC info
  • Supporter Plus
Quoting: Shmerl
Quoting: stanI hope they will release GPUs that do not need too much power this time.

Yeah, I hope they keep power usage in check and won't go after power creep like Nvidia did with new cards.
Well, they probably will have a card at a power level you want, but it remains to be seen whether that will be at a performance level you want. As long as their silicon can take it and they can slap a big enough heat sink on it, they'll probably have a 300+-ish watt unit at the top end to compete better with the 3080 and not leave performance on the table. So, if you don't want that, you'll have to take a lesser part. It may not be substantially lesser, as power usage goes way up faster then performance does, but that's a tradeoff you'll have to consider.

One thing to note - GPU's are a relatively low margin product for AMD. MM for MM of silicon, CPU's are way more profitable, and have a lot less headaches with regard to software development needed to sustain them. The higher the performance they can get out of each mm of gpu silicon they sell, the higher the profit margin they can get out of the unit. That means leaving a lot of thermal headroom on the table is lost revenue on a thin-er margin product. Naturally there are real limits to how much juice they can run with, namely folks will only tolerate so much noise, and the 12-volt rails of system PSU's can only put out so much power, but within those limits, they get the highest performance they can to be able to charge higher prices for their products.


Last edited by yokem55 on 10 September 2020 at 6:11 am UTC
Shmerl 10 Sep
Quoting: yokem55Well, they probably will have a card at a power level you want, but it remains to be seen whether that will be at a performance level you want. As long as their silicon can take it and they can slap a big enough heat sink on it, they'll probably have a 300+-ish watt unit at the top end to compete better with the 3080 and not leave performance on the table. So, if you don't want that, you'll have to take a lesser part

For example for Sapphire Pulse RX 5700 XT, power requirements are listed as 241 W.

https://www.sapphiretech.com/en/consumer/pulse-radeon-rx-5700-xt-8g-gddr6#Specification

I'd rather not go much higher than that. So hopefully AMD will have some card that's better than RX 5700 XT but isn't too power hungry. I don't need 4K performance.


Last edited by Shmerl on 10 September 2020 at 6:49 am UTC
robredz 10 Sep
Quoting: Shmerl
Quoting: stanI hope they will release GPUs that do not need too much power this time.

Yeah, I hope they keep power usage in check and won't go after power creep like Nvidia did with new cards.
Those new cards are around 100watts and more thirstier than the 20 series those 550 and 650 watt PSUs might not cut it if you go beyond a RTX 3070.

Would consider AMD GPU if the figures and power darw stack up, and the Ray Tracing is decent and supported.
Built current rig ready for next CPU gen of Ryzen so that's settled, GPU open to AMD if its competiitive on Price/Performance.
Ironically for Nvidia, as yet AMD is only platform to run the 30 series on PCIE 4, not that it would make much if any difference over PCIE 3 as yet.
robredz 10 Sep
Quoting: Shmerl
Quoting: yokem55Well, they probably will have a card at a power level you want, but it remains to be seen whether that will be at a performance level you want. As long as their silicon can take it and they can slap a big enough heat sink on it, they'll probably have a 300+-ish watt unit at the top end to compete better with the 3080 and not leave performance on the table. So, if you don't want that, you'll have to take a lesser part

For example for Sapphire Pulse RX 5700 XT, power requirements are listed as 241 W.

https://www.sapphiretech.com/en/consumer/pulse-radeon-rx-5700-xt-8g-gddr6#Specification

I'd rather not go much higher than that. So hopefully AMD will have some card that's better than RX 5700 XT but isn't too power hungry. I don't need 4K performance.

1440P seems to be the sweet spot along with the Ultrawides, I find 2560 x 1080 a good compromise as not a huge load over Full HD my RTX2060 Super will do until we see what's coming up, one of my sons asked why was I insisten on 850 watt PSU, told them better to have the capacity, plus running a psu at 50% its usually at its most efficient.
Actually I am more excited to see what is coming in at the lower end. Specifically Athlon APU the 3000 G was a staggering surprise 720p gaming on 35 watt processor in esports titles i grant you but with only 3 graphics cores available and all for 40 pounds amazing. I am very interested to see what the next Athlon hold perhaps quad core with maybe an extra cu to make it a vega 4 if the pricing and thermals stay at those previous levels am def building rig based on that to see what it can do with overclocks.
Tuxee 10 Sep
Quoting: The_Aquabat
Quoting: ShmerlLess hardware bugs and such.
I keep hearing about Navi being buggy, I haven't find bugs on my navi. Maybe I hit the silicon lottery? is there any documentation about the bugs? are there any workarounds?

That was the one I suffered most from
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/-/issues/929

Disappeared with 5.7.x but for some it seems to prevail.
The_Aquabat 10 Sep
Quoting: TuxeeThat was the one I suffered most from
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/-/issues/929
thanks

interesting to note this last comment🤔🤔
QuoteUsing standard 5.3.0-62 ubuntu kernel generic works
Using standard 5.4.0-45 ubuntu kernel runs into hangs/freezes/amdgpu-timeouts (using suggested kernel cmdline flags from this tickets' comments didn't seem to improve things for me)
various other kernels between 5.4 and 5.8 suffer the same issues (I don't remember which versions specifically)
Using "mainline" 5.8.7-050807 ubuntu kernel works again!

I'm also having better results with mainline 5.8.8 ubuntu kernel, I don't have crashes but performance is better than vanilla, xanmod, or liquorix kernel, which was not the case with polaris.


Last edited by The_Aquabat on 10 September 2020 at 10:15 am UTC
3zekiel 10 Sep
I'm very excited about the Zen 3 announcement, I want to be rid of my 9900k (crazy temps & power consumption making my life a misery in summer, although it warms my home office in winter :) ). My main hope is they drop the motherboard fan, and hit the 5GHz. With & 10 or 12 core parts, needing no more than a reasonable 130w would be awesome (since when is 130w reasonable ? :p ).

For RDNA 2, I just can't get excited. Somehow I feel it won't be any kind of real competitor to Ampere, wait and see I guess. But I don't think there's much hope to have with a 7nm to "7nm+" transition, to get better perf than 5700XT, they will have to raise power like crazy, which will probably bottleneck before they reach the 2080ti equivalent that the 3070 is, or at least not for the same power consumption at all.
The_Aquabat 10 Sep
what a coincidence this post gave the bad Mojo to my 5600xt, I swear it was rock stable for 1 month, now I got a Green Screen Of Death. Searched on google seems a fairly common issue, mostly happening on windows. To be honest I experienced this Green Screen of Death before, but only while overclocking, I thought it was only a normal overclocking issue that every gpu has when pushing clocks and voltages (to be fair polaris also had some issues when overclocking). So the culprit might have something to do with clocks or voltage, but this time I was not overclocking just watching a youtube video.

from what I read I guess navi has a lot of issues but they are sometimes very very random. I'm not saying that's something consumers should put up with. But at least it's not the disaster Ryzen gen 1 was at launch. And this time tables have turned with Ryzen 1 the issues were happening on Linux mostly, now Windows users are the ones having more problems.

EDIT: I can't draw a conclusion so soon, but Polaris also had some issues if you overclocked and then reset the clocks to defaults, sometimes after some hours you got hard freezes, maybe I overclocked this morning and because of that I had this Screen of Death? I said I was not overclocking because I reset the clocks to default, but I did overclock this morning in reality.


Last edited by The_Aquabat on 10 September 2020 at 7:01 pm UTC
While you're here, please consider supporting GamingOnLinux on:

Patreon, Liberapay or PayPal Donation.

We have no adverts, no paywalls, no timed exclusive articles. Just good, fresh content. Without your continued support, we simply could not continue!

You can find even more ways to support us on this dedicated page any time. If you already are, thank you!
Login / Register

Or login with...
Sign in with Steam Sign in with Twitter Sign in with Google
Social logins require cookies to stay logged in.