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The Linux distribution I was most thankful for in 2020 - EndeavourOS

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How do you know when someone uses Arch Linux? They will tell you. Welcome to an article telling you about how I use Arch Linux, well sort of anyway. It's a running joke in the Linux community and now one I am very much a part of.

Over the many years I've used Linux since discovering it properly about 17 years ago, I've seen many distributions rise and fall. With that in mind, I've obviously used quite a lot of different distributions. Like many people, early on in my Linux life I was a "distro hopper", someone who can't sit still and has to keep trying everything out. Moving between the likes of Mandrake (before it was Mandriva), Fedora Core (the original Fedora name), openSUSE and eventually feeling quite at home when discovering Ubuntu.

A long time later, i wanted to be a bit more bleeding-edge and have all the latest bells and whistles so I settled on Antergos. It was based upon Arch Linux but gave you a nice installer, which eventually died like many distributions before it. Manjaro was an option too, which I used for a while (two times, years apart) but I found it to be too unstable for my liking due to the way they bundle updates, and they've made a lot of…odd decisions lately that I felt pushed me away from them.

So what to do? I felt a bit stuck. Ubuntu was too safe, not particularly exciting and I didn't want another normal distro. I was told some tales of EndeavourOS, a fresh distribution that is the successor to Antergos. Giving an easy to use installer, with plenty of desktop environments to pick and unlike Manjaro, they are right up close to Arch Linux on the packaging with EndeavourOS sticking to Arch upstream but they have a few of their own extras. This was exactly what I wanted, Arch Linux but easy to install and get going.

Pictured above - EndeavourOS plus the MATE desktop. It's not fancy, and the MATE desktop isn't full of bling but that's why I like it. For the most part: it stays out of my way, it's highly configurable when I want it to be and it's easy to use.

Here's the thing. EndeavourOS is absolutely not something I will recommend to new users, or to even reasonably confident Linux users because for most I still recommend other distributions talked about in this previous article. Why? You really do have to setup a lot yourself, sometimes annoyingly so and there are problems at times with Arch being so fresh with packages.

The most annoying issue so far was a bug in the Arch packaging of libcairo, which caused the demo of APICO and all Paradox Interactive titles that used their launcher to fail to launch from Steam with the normal Steam Linux Runtime. The issues were reported (#1 - #2), then to the libcairo developers too (here) and in less than 24 hours the fix was committed. Part of why I love open source and Linux so much at times, because finding issues is often nothing more than running something in terminal to see and then you can go and report it and help get it fixed. Issues like that are why I never suggest people go and use the likes of Arch Linux (or anything based on it) since the updates continually roll in and breakages can and will happen but you find them before other distributions do so it all balances out. 

That said, EndeavourOS has actually been great. Surprisingly so too. It's now my /home on Linux and I continue to learn more about Linux every day when going a little out of my usual comfort zone with it.

If you're after something that's constantly up to date but easy to setup and you know what you're doing, EndeavourOS is the tip of the day.

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Sojiro84 7 Jan
Quoting: inlinuxdude
Quoting: Sojiro84Eventually I also needed a new home because of some of the stuff that happened at Manjaro.

I didn't wanted a normal distro and I liked arch so EndeavourOS it was!

I definitely needed to adjust my arch install script a lot. Manjaro come with a lot of stuff by default that I needed and liked and wasn't in the base Arch+Cinnamon package.

But, after many test runs in VirtualBox and adjusting my install script, my system is now always quickly up and running with all the packages I need, program settings are restored and the same goes for my Cinnamon settings and my system is basically almost the same as it was in Manjaro!

Ummm, you and the author (Liam) both mentioned things happening recently with Manjaro. I've been running Manjaro-KDE for several years on a couple of workstations, and I'm not aware of anything going on... What's been happening?

I remember a page that described many of Manjaro's issues, but right now I can only find this one: https://github.com/vizs/manjarno

I ignored most of it when I found out, nobody is perfect and we all make mistakes, but at some point, I can't make any more excuses.

For me, the reason was how the donated funds was used for personal stuff. There was a discussion on the forums (the old one, thread doesn't exist anymore, how convenient) started by a staff member to discuss it, but the project lead hid the thread from public eyes. Delisted it. So nobody could find the thread unless they had a direct link.

Ah, found the reddit thread that brought it all to light! https://old.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/hwoev3/change_of_treasurer_for_manjaro_community_funds/

And here is the thread that started it all on the Manjaro forums: https://web.archive.org/web/20200807042341/https://forum.manjaro.org/t/change-of-treasurer-for-manjaro-community-funds/154888


Last edited by Sojiro84 on 7 January 2021 at 9:12 pm UTC
denyasis 8 Jan
Quoting: inkheyWhat i do really like in debian sid, is that i don't have this kind of big update which change too much things in the system and cause potential lots of issues at the same time, on debian sid, it's look to me that the system don't change much after each update, it's less stressful.

I agree with you, but more when I think of Debian testing. It's like that perfect middle between sid and stable. I used it for a very long time.

I might like Opensuse TW as my daily driver, but my little file server is running debian stable 10 years non stop.

I think what scares me away from arch is the fear of unexpected breakage and maintenance. I love to tinker with the systems, but sometimes I just want to play a game and when it suddenly breaks, that can be really frustrating. It sounds like ebdeavoros might be a good way to try it out.
sudoer 8 Jan
EndeavourOS is very overrated imo and one should be using ArcoLinux, Manjaro, or vanilla Arch directly imo, as they (EOS) practically are doing nothing for Arch, they just offer the Calamares installer and a feminine purple theming and that's it, leeching the Arch servers for free and pretending "oh but my forum is so friendly compared to Arch". At least other projects like ArcoLinux or Manjaro actually DO something for Linux, like making Linux more accessible to newbies, providing good and helpful scripts, developing apps like pamac, teaching stuff and providing FAR more options (just compare the Calamares installer for ArcoLinux and the Calamares for Endeavour). You should have used the testing branch on Manjaro anyway, it's just some days behind Arch, practically the same and stable AF. As for bashing the Manjaro devs because one dev needed a beefy machine for developing, testing and building stuff and some immature whiners who like to whine and troll everywhere (a typical internet behavior) made a riot, that's just childish behavior of the kindergarden.
scaine 8 Jan
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Quoting: sudoerEndeavourOS is very overrated imo and one should be using ArcoLinux, Manjaro, or vanilla Arch directly imo, as they (EOS) practically are doing nothing for Arch, they just offer the Calamares installer and a feminine purple theming and that's it, leeching the Arch servers for free and pretending "oh but my forum is so friendly compared to Arch". At least other projects like ArcoLinux or Manjaro actually DO something for Linux, like making Linux more accessible to newbies, providing good and helpful scripts, developing apps like pamac, teaching stuff and providing FAR more options (just compare the Calamares installer for ArcoLinux and the Calamares for Endeavour). You should have used the testing branch on Manjaro anyway, it's just some days behind Arch, practically the same and stable AF. As for bashing the Manjaro devs because one dev needed a beefy machine for developing, testing and building stuff and some immature whiners who like to whine and troll everywhere (a typical internet behavior) made a riot, that's just childish behavior of the kindergarden.

I think you're missing the entire point of open source. The act of "standing on the shoulders of giants" isn't "leeching". It's the entire premise of the distro scene.

As for whining and trolling, perhaps you should consider the tone of your own post here.
scirocco 8 Jan
Tried it but it was to slow in gaming for me and pretty bad font rendering and colors, if I want an arch based one I will stick to garuda minimal or manjaro for now.
Xpander 10 Jan
been on Arch (MATE desktop) for 7 years now, just keep rolling and rolling. Can't remember any major breakages. Few package conflicts with AUR have happened, but easy to fix. Few times i have messed up by tweaking some wrong configs, but easy to revert the changes anyway. Super happy. And i love systemd also.. easy to make new services, super fast boot aand so on. Can't wait for systemd-oomd to become a default and stable.
Ohh last 4 years i also run with testing repos enabled, so theres that :)

xpander@archlinux ~ $ cat /var/log/pacman.log | grep -a -m1 filesystem
[2013-01-21 17:45] installed filesystem (2012.12-1)



Last edited by Xpander on 10 January 2021 at 12:51 pm UTC
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