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Terraria for Stadia cancelled, due to Google locking the developer out

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Stadia is back on the spotlight and not for their overhype, new games or stopping first-party games, in fact it's due to Terraria now being cancelled due to Google locking the accounts of a developer. This isn't just any developer either, this is coming from Terraria developer Andrew Spinks, who is the founder of Re-Logic.

Spinks wrote a thread on Twitter, highlighting the issue after being locked out of a Google account now for three weeks. That means access has been lost to anything purchased on Google Play, all the data on Google Drive, even the official YouTube account for Terraria cannot be accessed due to all this.

In a follow-up tweet Spinks mentioned that the bridge has been burned and so Terraria for Google Stadia is officially done and cancelled and that Re-Logic will "no longer support any of your platforms moving forward" and in another "I will not be involved with a corporation that values their customers and partners so little. Doing business with you is a liability."

You would think, that if it was coming to Stadia and it was already rated for it by PEGI, that Google would be keeping a close eye on it. Enough to ensure the developer can actually access anything. Apparently not.

A time where Google could really use some good news for Stadia, treating developers like this is clearly not going to go over well with anyone. This will likely put off other developers too, the damage of this happening with such a hugely popular game can't be understated.

It's a shocking reminder that many of us (myself included) rely too heavily one on single provider for multiple things. Personally, I have begun moving from Gmail wherever possible to ProtonMail and might I suggest you try it too. The trouble with Google is they are almost everywhere, I couldn't imagine losing so much and never getting an answer.

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tuubi 9 Feb
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Quoting: Arehandoro
Quoting: soulsource
Quoting: ArehandoroStill a long way ahead, at least another year for proper delivery, but people willing to get off Google in their smartphones could look into the Librem 5, or PinePhone if someone isn't a heavy phone user because the performance is still under par. Real Linux smartphones are around the corner, and we all know they're the future.

Just saying: I'm posting from a Sony XPeria XA2, running Sailfish OS. If that's not "real Linux", then I don't know what else.

It is, but you had to purchase the device with Android, or from someone that installed Sailfish OS on it, and it's not supported by the vendor ;)
The OS is officially (and commercially) supported on these devices by Jolla, if only passively by Sony. We get regular OS updates with new features and fixes, and customer support is available.

Too bad about the Google tax though. A lot like the Windows tax, but much harder to avoid.
kokoko3k 9 Feb
Doing multiple local backup of my gmail accounts via thunderbird right now...
Eike 9 Feb
Quoting: Purple Library GuyMan, suddenly I feel ahead of the curve.

Being behind once in a while can become being ahead... :D


Last edited by Eike on 9 February 2021 at 12:10 pm UTC
Guppy 9 Feb
Love how you all jump to the conclusion that google banned him with out reason, and honestly why the h.. did only one account have access to their corporate google products?
mirv 9 Feb
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Quoting: GuppyLove how you all jump to the conclusion that google banned him with out reason, and honestly why the h.. did only one account have access to their corporate google products?

To be fair I never made that assumption, and indeed I've seen reporting elsewhere that is basically hate without reason.

However it's possibly, probably, not a corporate account. So that makes things more problematic for the individual, and unless it's a general account issue (from what I can tell, no it's not) then Google shouldn't block the entire account for ToS breaches on a single service. That's bad of Google, regardless of the actions of the individual, a reminder not to place such reliance on a single account, and a warning that you might be without realising it.
STiAT 9 Feb
One of the reasons I have my own nextcloud at a german provider which gets backed up every day to a storage service of my choice, my own domains and with that mail adresses.

I do not even have my contacts at google.

Costs me about 4 euros a month, which is not a lot.

I do use google... for everything I do not care if it's gone. Basically Gmail is my mailing list and mail for online accounts I do not care about overmuch, where I'd just create another account if it's gone.
Guppy 10 Feb
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Quoting: GuppyLove how you all jump to the conclusion that google banned him with out reason, and honestly why the h.. did only one account have access to their corporate google products?

To be fair I never made that assumption, and indeed I've seen reporting elsewhere that is basically hate without reason.

However it's possibly, probably, not a corporate account. So that makes things more problematic for the individual, and unless it's a general account issue (from what I can tell, no it's not) then Google shouldn't block the entire account for ToS breaches on a single service. That's bad of Google, regardless of the actions of the individual, a reminder not to place such reliance on a single account, and a warning that you might be without realising it.

Due to the SSO nature of google accounts I don't believe you can be banned from just one of their services - but rather everywhere you use yourname@gmail.com to log in will be hit.

We used to use a shared corporate account to access the google services we use for the business, we were told that this was a bad idea exactly because what is described by our google rep. So now each individual service is run by separate accounts and we grant access to each employees corporate accounts as needed. This way is an employee account is compromised or somehow violates the ToS the damage is minimal.

Sure; if they ban the account that owns a service we loose access to that service, but as nobody is actually using it that seems very unlikely.


And I agree it does sound like it was his personal account ( making it even more strange it would be the sole access to their youtube account ), especially the bit with having spend 1000s of dollars makes it sound like yet another kid caught at cheating in fortnite Basically the entire thing (to me) reads as if he knows he has done wrong but expected special treatment, especially because he admits hes been in contact but wont say what he was banned for.

Also if they will "no longer support any of your platforms moving forward" - why hasn't he told his publisher yet? because 505 is still selling it on googlePlay services :P

All in all it seems like a little too public tempertantrum
Fuck Google. Let them burn.

Long time user of Gmail (since beta 2004) and advocate of Google Services & Phones I recently closed out many Google Accounts. Very soon they are deleting accounts if you don't login for a period of time including the pictures, besides feeding your pictures to their AI to profile you besides stupid bullshit like what clearly happened here in this post.


If you want to leave Gmail, here's the way out. You will need to enable "Less Secure Apps" to enable `imapsync` access

https://myaccount.google.com/lesssecureapps

Download `imapsync` from your package manager as seen here:

https://github.com/imapsync/imapsync

 
sudo imapsync --no-modulesversion --syncinternaldates \\n
--host1 imap.gmail.com --user1 'USERNAME1@gmail.com' --password1 'PASSWORD_1' \\n
--host2 localhost --user2 'USERNAME2'  --password2 'PASSWORD_2'


In this example, using "localhost" you would be SSH'd to the email server for it to work. Alternatively LINE 3 could be updated to protonmail or another provider.

Additionally, create a full backup of your data

https://takeout.google.com

Then delete your account or delete all data in your account (eg: wipe out everything in Thunderbird in "All Mail") -- if you need your account for "account recovery" of things on the internet for a while just leave it at 0% usage.

You can also self-host or purchase Cloud space with a App Suite that covers pretty much all the basics Google does -- using it the last few months IMO it does Files, Calendar, Webmail linkup, Documents/Spreadsheets, Password Management, Address Book, and apparantly does Talk which recently I learned using Materbridge can link into existing services like Discord (I haven't setup yet), the Video Calls seem to work okay User to User, etc...

https://nextcloud.com

Good Luck @all and Fuck Google.

Edit: Also fuck Twitter, Facebook, Instagram & all the big guys. In the spirit of Email (serverA.com to serverB.com) https://mastodon.online is growing as a kind of "Email" for Social Spheres to network. Other interesting projects are Pixelfed (Federated Instagram), Matrix/Element.io (IRC meets Discord), PeerTube (Federated YouTube [some servers allow NSFW, some do not in the main feed]), LBRY.tv / Odysee.com (YouTube alt using LBC crypto to reward content creators, Federated IIUC)


Last edited by ElectricPrism on 10 February 2021 at 1:56 pm UTC
Y'know, it occurs to me that it would be a lot easier to break up email than a lot of the other stuff. Email doesn't really have any "network effects" in the social network sense because it's standardized--you're not going to find that if you use a small player's email client you somehow fail to receive email from Google.
Dunc 11 Feb
Quoting: ArehandoroVideo-conferencing: https://meet.jit.si
I first used Jitsi before Zoom and honestly prefer it, regardless of the open source angle.

Quoting: Purple Library GuyMan, suddenly I feel ahead of the curve. As a university employee my email is through work, I have a vestigial Facebook page which I visit maybe once a year, I don't have files in the cloud. I do buy stuff on Amazon some, but not enough that I'd have any big worries if I was somehow locked out of it. I do have some kind of Google ID, but I only use it for, like, if I'm reading articles with certain fairly common comment systems and want to comment I'll use the Google ID.
All in all, the only online service that would make me even bust out a few cusswords if they dumped me would be, well, Steam. I haven't downloaded all my games, only the ones I've actually played . . .
I'm kind of the same. I don't have a work email account; I'm still using the one my ISP provided when I signed up 15 years ago (and yes, I'm seriously considering something more “portable”... but for once, procrastination paid off, because five-ten years back I'd probably have gone to GMail, like almost everyone else did). I bought maybe four or five items on Amazon last year, and most of them in the run-up to Christmas. I've never used any cloud or “social media” services at all, and while I did create a Google account for Android, I finally installed LineageOS on my phone a few months ago.

Losing Steam would certainly suck, but I think of all of that type of thing it's the... least untrustworthy, let's say.
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