Good news for those looking to download Ubuntu Desktop 23.10, as the recent issue involving a hostile translation has been solved and so the downloads are up again.
Canonical have put out a fresh build of Ubuntu 23.10 and Ubuntu Budgie 23.10 with a fresh Ukrainian translation, which is the one that was hit with some pretty offensive stuff in it. In their updated announcement post Canonical stated "Going forward we will be drafting new safeguards around translation moderation in Ubuntu Desktop. We will share the outcome of these discussions once they are refined.".
Nothing else has changed, it's the same Ubuntu 23.10 release announced recently but with the installer translation issue solved.
Hopefully this won't happen again. Real shame it happened in the first place though. Unfortunately, some people will target anything for abuse, even open source projects to spread hate.
Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
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slaapliedje Oct 17, 2023
Quoting: ObsidianBlkI've always been more of the 'respect people for who they are, not what they are' mindset.Quoting: slaapliedjeQuoting: Linux_RocksAlso, corporations being PC or inclusive cause it's good for business is annoyingly fake. But it's better than the other options.Yeah, for me it's just bigotry in the other direction. Instead of Corps asking people to stop being bigots, they're asking you to put other types of people on pedestals. Which is still bigotry, because certain other types of people are not put on those pedestals.
Whether a company's display of support is genuine or self serving is a matter of debate. However, showing support for a group that has been treated (at best) less than acceptably in a historical context is not "bigotry in the other direction". At this point, as a society, it's not enough to *quietly* say "we accept you" because, like with any relationship, you do actually have to *say* it to that person. You have to let them *know*, unambiguously, that, yes, they matter and they're accepted. Maybe, on a societal level, that means, at the very least, they get a market display, or a few characters taking the spotlight in a show or movie, or they get to parade down main street. Maybe it's time those groups get a bit of the spotlight and the respect they deserve. There's plenty to go around
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Quoting: TheSHEEEPIn theory at least, I actually kind of get what you mean--crazy people can be fun to laugh at (although this brand never gave me much of a hoot). This particular variety I'd find a lot funnier if they weren't in government or threatening to form government in lots of major countries around the world.Quoting: Liam DaweWell, let's just say not all of us are easily disgusted and have a bit thicker skin.Quoting: TheSHEEEPHilariously edgelordy, but not really something you want in official products.I looked over all of it, and it was not some silly edgelord stuff. It was just downright disgusting.
Honestly, I was quite entertained by the sheer insanity of it.
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Quoting: ObsidianBlkEhhh, not usually. With small ones, or privately held ones, sure, there's plausible debate room. If Valve does something, it could just be because Gabe wants to. With big, publicly traded ones, no--being self-serving is their fiduciary duty and their only function.Quoting: slaapliedjeQuoting: Linux_RocksAlso, corporations being PC or inclusive cause it's good for business is annoyingly fake. But it's better than the other options.Yeah, for me it's just bigotry in the other direction. Instead of Corps asking people to stop being bigots, they're asking you to put other types of people on pedestals. Which is still bigotry, because certain other types of people are not put on those pedestals.
Whether a company's display of support is genuine or self serving is a matter of debate.
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Quoting: slaapliedjeI've always been more of the 'respect people for who they are, not what they are' mindset.Which is fine for you at an individual level. But if (category of people A) gets kicked in the street by 20% of others, and (category of people B) does not, then even if you're not among that 20%, it's clear that there are different things that need to be done with respect to category A and B. Even at the individual level, there wouldn't be much point in you saying you support category B kicking victims, 'cause there, like, aren't any.
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Sucks that it happened in the first place but I'm glad it was dealt with it swiftly.
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Quoting: GuestI am wondering, why there is no proofreader position to check a submitted translation.
You got a product with dozens of localisations. You would need an armada of proofreaders - something a company as Canonical with its 500 employees can hardly muster.
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Quoting: TuxeeWelll, not really. Not these days. Or at least, not to check for this kind of thing. For that, you'd just have to Google translate (or whatever) a random spot-check of a few strings in each translation and see that it was about right and not some random unrelated thing.Quoting: GuestI am wondering, why there is no proofreader position to check a submitted translation.
You got a product with dozens of localisations. You would need an armada of proofreaders - something a company as Canonical with its 500 employees can hardly muster.
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