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PayPalAfter a string of annoying incidents after updates causing stability problems on Fedora, there's a new proposal put forward to help improve things.
The new proposal suggests forming a Special Interest Group (SIG) focused on developing a "recommended stream of work to improve our stability and robustness, and to improve our communication with users when problems arise that compromise that stability and robustness".
In the proposal several major update issues are noted that have come up lately including a recent Mesa update that broke launching games from Steam. I only switched to Fedora KDE a few days ago, and was bitten by the Mesa update, and so I was forced into the terminal to downgrade my Mesa version just to get gaming with friends that evening - something that ideally just shouldn't happen.
The chatter on the Fedora Discourse forum around the Mesa update got a little spicy, with the maintainer who actually pushed out this particular Mesa update noting they "don’t consider closed source steam a reliable indicator of issues, it has no debug symbols" which was pretty unhelpful. And later saying "Not my problem anymore, I have quit as rpmfusion admin".
Seems like the proposal is a good idea, at least to get the ball rolling on things. Their update process currently doesn't seem to work particularly well at times. This isn't about playing a blame game as issues happen of course, but so many issues could be avoided with better processes in place. A system cannot be (as the Fedora websites advertises) "Trusted, powerful and easy" and "Reliable" if updates repeatedly break major parts of the system.
Hopefully some good improvements can come out of this.
Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
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Quoting: CloversheenQuoting: dpanterYou might be interested in Siduction then.
What would you (personally) say is a strength of going for Siduction over normal sid?
Af far as I know atm the only thing over normal sid is updated Nvidia Drivers as the drivers in normal sid are still quite old. as the rest of the packages they have in their extra and fixes repos are quite old tbh
Quoting: tohurThen you don't know.Quoting: CloversheenQuoting: dpanterYou might be interested in Siduction then.
What would you (personally) say is a strength of going for Siduction over normal sid?
Af far as I know atm the only thing over normal sid is updated Nvidia Drivers as the drivers in normal sid are still quite old. as the rest of the packages they have in their extra and fixes repos are quite old tbh
Siduction is Debian sid + extra goodness. Siduction has in repo stuff like mesa-git, day1 kernel builds with more desktop oriented options than stock sid, even rc kernels. When sid was slacking a while back, the crew rolled their own firmware packages from git. At various points in time we've had nice things in repos like Nvidia beta drivers and corectrl - note that times change and not many in the team use Nvidia these days (pro hint: use cuda repo) and of course corectrl is more or less dead now. Also lots of nice to have stuff for tinkerers, like the awesome chroot-helper tool included in the live iso and a comprehensive manual.
Siduction is imho the ultimate Debian distro (for gamers especially) and has a friendly community.
Note: you are expected to know your way around Linux and Debian, this is not a distro for rookies.
Quoting: dpanterQuoting: tohurThen you don't know.Quoting: CloversheenQuoting: dpanterYou might be interested in Siduction then.
What would you (personally) say is a strength of going for Siduction over normal sid?
Af far as I know atm the only thing over normal sid is updated Nvidia Drivers as the drivers in normal sid are still quite old. as the rest of the packages they have in their extra and fixes repos are quite old tbh
Siduction is Debian sid + extra goodness. Siduction has in repo stuff like mesa-git, day1 kernel builds with more desktop oriented options than stock sid, even rc kernels. When sid was slacking a while back, the crew rolled their own firmware packages from git. At various points in time we've had nice things in repos like Nvidia beta drivers and corectrl - note that times change and not many in the team use Nvidia these days (pro hint: use cuda repo) and of course corectrl is more or less dead now. Also lots of nice to have stuff for tinkerers, like the awesome chroot-helper tool included in the live iso and a comprehensive manual.
Siduction is imho the ultimate Debian distro (for gamers especially) and has a friendly community.
Note: you are expected to know your way around Linux and Debian, this is not a distro for rookies.
Sid pretty much has latest mesa and who wants to run meas-git as if theres gona be breakage its in the git build. Also LACT is pretty much the replacement for Corectrl as far as GPUs go. Also I know they provide grub-btrfs but even having the snapshots the annoyances of the typical sid breakage gets annoying.
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