Quoting: rstrubeAre there any work arounds to the missing Stream Output support on the Vulkan side?

There was some discussion in Khronos internally. You can follow this issue. They however are looking for feedback from game developers who can explain how stream output is used usually, so Khronos could decide how to better match it Vulkan. I'm not 3D graphics developer, so I can't comment on that, but may be you know someone who can answer their question?

Quoting: Shmerl

Quoting: rstrubeAre there any work arounds to the missing Stream Output support on the Vulkan side?

There was some discussion in Khronos internally. You can follow this issue. They however are looking for feedback from game developers who can explain how stream output is used usually, so Khronos could decide how to better match it Vulkan. I'm not 3D graphics developer, so I can't comment on that, but may be you know someone who can answer their question?

Thanks for the response, I actually found that thread via google and it was certainly interesting (although way over my head). Does wine3d still have significant performance problems with the Witcher 3 or are things better now with Wine Staging 3.7?

Quoting: rstrubeDoes wine3d still have significant performance problems with the Witcher 3 or are things better now with Wine Staging 3.7?

It's still not ready. Wine developers are working in the internal branch on this issue, and didn't yet put memory access patches upstream.

Quoting: ShmerlIt's still not ready. Wine developers are working in the internal branch on this issue, and didn't yet put memory access patches upstream.

Yeah, I just did a test with wine3d and the performance is noticeably slower. Great to hear that wine developers are working on a potential fix, it would be fantastic to play the entire game without the graphical artifacts (abeit they are very minor at this point with DXVK). DXVK is an absolutely incredible project / initiative so I wouldn't be surprised if the developer comes up with solution to support DX Stream Output in the future.

Have you had an opportunity to test the internal branch? Does it make a significant difference in performance? Is it possible these changes will make their way into Wine Staging 3.8?

Quoting: rstrubeHave you had an opportunity to test the internal branch?

No, since it's not public :) I've only heard about it. But hopefully it will work out well and will be merged upstream. It will take some time though.

[/quote] Ok. Lemme give it a try! Till weekend I am done with it! ...I might require some (nazi english) help before releasing! haha[/quote]
Thanks a lot!

Even a video tutorial in 'nazi English' would be splendid, as long as you don't forget the ban on imported root-vegetables :D

You don't need Vulklan SDK anymore, unless you want to use Windows Vulkan layers. Same goes for registry keys and vulkan.json. With out of the box Wine experience setting up dxvk should be quite easy today.

Quoting: GuestBoth Wine and Wine Staging of Debian packages are not yet built with wine-Vulkan support.

Don't know why!

I'm usually building Wine myself for testing. But I think winehq packages are built with Vulkan support already. They are updated more frequently than ones in Debian repo anyway, so just use those if you need packaged versions.

That's what I added for Debian testing in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/wine.list

deb https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/debian/ testing main

dpkg --list | grep wine
ii  wine-devel                                    3.7.0~buster                            amd64        WINE Is Not An Emulator - runs MS Windows programs
ii  wine-devel-amd64                              3.7.0~buster                            amd64        WINE Is Not An Emulator - runs MS Windows programs
ii  wine-devel-i386:i386                          3.7.0~buster                            i386         WINE Is Not An Emulator - runs MS Windows programs
ii  winehq-devel                                  3.7.0~buster                            amd64        WINE Is Not An Emulator - runs MS Windows programs
ii  winetricks                                    0.0+20180217-1                          all          package manager for Wine to install software easily

For unstable you should use:

deb https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/debian/ sid main

In debian testing repository, wine (3.7) build with vulkan. It's work's fine with dxvk.