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Title: Loosing hope on linux gaming
Blaster-PR 6 Jul 2017
Hi there today my friend made the harsh decision to switch back to windows 10 for gaming, :( Im loosing all hope! so sad.
damarrin 6 Jul 2017
Yes, well. There are A LOT of games missing from Linux.

Also, the correct form of the verb is "loosening".

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Liam Dawe 7 Jul 2017
Who cares? Let them do what they want, if you enjoy Linux use it. You don't need to worry about what other people do.
MaCroX95 7 Jul 2017
Quoting: liamdaweWho cares? Let them do what they want, if you enjoy Linux use it. You don't need to worry about what other people do.
Liam, it's harder than it seems... I have a few friends who are always playing these games that I just cannot enjoy with them because they're not on linux... I can understand the struggle between the players and why Windows is such an appealing option because objectively performance and library is better on Windows... and community and friends players are one of the most important aspects of gaming...

We just need more companies like System76 and first expand our userbase in order to attract AAA developers... because our community atm is set up of people who really enjoy linux for what it is and not neccessarily its gaming capability. Being able to play some of the games only makes our staying here even nicer.

EDIT: I certainly wouldn't use linux if gaming was the first and only thing in my mind :P
Bergerac 12 Jul 2017
It's a shame that Steam machines have faired so badly, they really were a golden opportunity to expand Linux gaming, and to be fair Steam for Linux and investment from Valve have benefited us a lot in terms of gaming and support. I think it would have been better if Steam machines had a more focused release, and it would have been better to first try to carve a place in the console market before moving to take on Windows gaming.

But I wouldn't worry about somebody switching from Linux to Windows, people are welcome to use whatever OS they like on their machines, I just wish Microsoft felt the same way and it wasn't such a headache deleting Windows 10 from some modern machines.
Asu 30 Jul 2017
There's no going back after Gaben put steam on linux in 2013.
Steel yourself soldier. Play only games that have linux client. A few: civ, deus ex, mad max, tomb raider, bioshock, total war, shadow of mordor, ark, f1 2015, grid, rocket league, countless indies, etc, etc, etc, etc...
I repeat: forget windoze, winners use linux!
razing32 30 Jul 2017
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Most of my friends use Windows so I know that pain.
I also know that a lot of people prefer the next-next-finish option rather than tweaking their OS.

Don't loose hope. Just add some of us or find new people to play with on the site.

What do you play usually ?

What game pushed your friend over the edge and made him make the switch ?
MaCroX95 30 Jul 2017
Quoting: AsuThere's no going back after Gaben put steam on linux in 2013.
Steel yourself soldier. Play only games that have linux client. A few: civ, deus ex, mad max, tomb raider, bioshock, total war, shadow of mordor, ark, f1 2015, grid, rocket league, countless indies, etc, etc, etc, etc...
I repeat: forget windoze, winners use linux!
At least people who have a bit of self-respect will use an operating system that at least provides you with options of obeying you in a world of virtual privacy (internet) anyway.
slaapliedje 30 Jul 2017
Friends don't let friends use Windows!

Kidding aside, I solve the problem by only suggesting games to friends / co-workers that work on Linux. That way I can say, "Hey, we should play Dying Light. There's a Linux client too, and it performs quite well!" My theory is that people don't really want to use Windows, they just don't know of any other choice.

Over complication of Windows and it's closed source environment with all of it's issues not being easily looked up online is one of the reasons console gaming is so popular. Linux you can say is complicated as well, but at least you can generally type in the exact error and find loads of information on how to fix it.
Arnaudk 1 Aug 2017
I fact Windows is more gamer-friendly than Linux. Everyone knows that.

Off-course, Steam helped a lot, but not too much. Desura was in fact the first big player pushing toward Linux adoption, and that's sad they closed down the online platform
MaCroX95 1 Aug 2017
Quoting: ArnaudkI fact Windows is more gamer-friendly than Linux. Everyone knows that.

Off-course, Steam helped a lot, but not too much. Desura was in fact the first big player pushing toward Linux adoption, and that's sad they closed down the online platform
What is it more user-friendly on Steam for Windows than Steam for linux? It's only more gamer-friendly cause it has more support and more games, nothing else.
razing32 1 Aug 2017
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Quoting: MaCroX95
Quoting: ArnaudkI fact Windows is more gamer-friendly than Linux. Everyone knows that.

Off-course, Steam helped a lot, but not too much. Desura was in fact the first big player pushing toward Linux adoption, and that's sad they closed down the online platform
What is it more user-friendly on Steam for Windows than Steam for linux? It's only more gamer-friendly cause it has more support and more games, nothing else.
I hate to say this , but driver support from vendors is much better.
We are kind of a second thought.
Stranger 1 Aug 2017
As a developer, one of the main reasons I target Linux is the idea that Linux gamers are going to be more positive to a game than on Windows. We've seen plenty of gamers be very positive about getting Linux support, and that's always motivating to keep both platforms working. Mac seems like a big hassle no one really wants in comparison, despite showing slightly higher sales on Steam.

At the end of the day the market size isn't the only relevant point. If Linux users are twice as likely to buy the game and it's easy to support, then it's an easy sell.
MaCroX95 1 Aug 2017
Quoting: razing32
Quoting: MaCroX95
Quoting: ArnaudkI fact Windows is more gamer-friendly than Linux. Everyone knows that.

Off-course, Steam helped a lot, but not too much. Desura was in fact the first big player pushing toward Linux adoption, and that's sad they closed down the online platform
What is it more user-friendly on Steam for Windows than Steam for linux? It's only more gamer-friendly cause it has more support and more games, nothing else.
I hate to say this , but driver support from vendors is much better.
We are kind of a second thought.
I agree we are a second thought but they do support us after all :D and also Nvidia has on par performance with Windows drivers. I don't use AMD so can't comment on them. It is the game development studios whose fault is that they don't want to support us with any of their games, it wouldn't cost them much, they're just plain dicks especially for games like Hearthstone etc. But other than game support there's not many differences between linux and windows gaming.

Quoting: StrangerAs a developer, one of the main reasons I target Linux is the idea that Linux gamers are going to be more positive to a game than on Windows. We've seen plenty of gamers be very positive about getting Linux support, and that's always motivating to keep both platforms working. Mac seems like a big hassle no one really wants in comparison, despite showing slightly higher sales on Steam.

At the end of the day the market size isn't the only relevant point. If Linux users are twice as likely to buy the game and it's easy to support, then it's an easy sell.
I really appreciate such kind words :) it's really unfortunate that AAA studios would never consider thinking like that and that Feral needs to do all of the work for them if they decide to allow them in the first place.
razing32 1 Aug 2017
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Quoting: MaCroX95it wouldn't cost them much, they're just plain dicks especially for games like Hearthstone etc.
That's the Linux book of revelations isn't it ?

As the first seal opened I looked and before me was a great beast , and it spoke a most ominous tongue and revealed itself as Blizzard.
As the second seal opened a great demon stepped forth. And I dared to ask its name and it growled back at me "Bethesda"

Seriously , if those two ever release on Linux I'm running to check if the sky isn't falling or the rivers haven't turned to blood. :P
Kuduzkehpan 1 Aug 2017
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Seriously , if those two ever release on Linux I'm running to check if the sky isn't falling or the rivers haven't turned to blood.
sky is little bit shaking and rivers kind of blury.
at least some peoples testing blizzard games with wine. WOW, Diablo III, StarCraft 2. and also SDL was developed retired blizzard developer.
how ever. if one is gamer i suggest stick with windows xbox ps4, if one is linux er stick with linux. if one is both i suggest "dual boot" or stop crying.
i suggest myself look to the future. new technologies always wellcomes with new hopes. just like Vulkan UE4 Unity UNIGINE.CryEngine WebGL bla bla.
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tuubi 2 Aug 2017
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Quoting: Kuduzkehpanand also SDL was developed retired blizzard developer.
Actually Sam Lantinga released the first version of SDL back in 1998, and didn't join Blizzard until a couple of years later.
crt0mega 2 Aug 2017
Windows gaming? Been there, done that. I remember all these user friendly experiences like hunting down x64 drivers for older hardware. Or hunting down drivers in general. I know Linux can be picky as hell, but I never had to touch "chipset drivers" just because USB 3.0 wouldn't work otherwise.
1xok 5 Aug 2017
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