I used Steam / Proton to play Elex, and I didn't have any problems, but I remember reading several time that there was a graphical setting to lower, to be able to play correctly. I don't remember which one, but I think it was shader quality, or shadows quality. Maybe try to lower those settings and see if the problem still occurs ?

Also, at least with Proton, the first time you launch the game, shaders need to be compiled (whatever that means :whistle: ), and if you start playing immediately, it can cause stuttering.

Thanks furaxhornyx for your time. I tried the settings at their lowest value, but nothing changed. The fan speed is controlled by the driver, isn't that true? How can the game bypass that. I don't know. Very strange...

Does it help if you run the game with gamemode? Maybe setting the GPU to performance mode explicitly makes it behave more consistently.

I don't think the game is bypassing anything. I guess it's just stressing the GPU in a strange pattern.

Hey tuubi. Isn't gamemode only for native linux games? Can I use it under wine? Thank you very much for your input.

I don't see why gamemode wouldn't work with Wine games. Try this:
gamemoderun wine whatever.exe

I used gamemode and the game hangs on a black screen. Sometimes computers can drive you crazy!...

Maybe you can try CoreCtrl to tweak your GPU performance profile ?

Also, if you have an "overclocked edition" of your GPU, maybe you can try setting frequency and voltage back to "factory" settings (look for your GPU model on AMD site, the specs should be there). I know I've had some trouble in the past with some OC edition of GPU (granted, I was using Windows, but bad overclocking is bad on any platform).

Quoting: furaxhornyxMaybe you can try CoreCtrl to tweak your GPU performance profile ?

Also, if you have an "overclocked edition" of your GPU, maybe you can try setting frequency and voltage back to "factory" settings (look for your GPU model on AMD site, the specs should be there). I know I've had some trouble in the past with some OC edition of GPU (granted, I was using Windows, but bad overclocking is bad on any platform).

I had similar trouble with my old (factory OC'd) MSI RX580, but I didn't have to touch the frequencies at all. Just lowered voltages a bit and it stopped crashing and ran cooler. That convinced me to avoid MSI in the future.

Well, my card is not overclocked. When I ran the game with high settings the temperature does not go above 55 degrees Celsius (which I think is a normal temperature). I tried CoreCtrl but no difference. And I noticed that this behaviour continues after I quit the game and I am on the desktop. I must restart my computer for the fans to start behaving normally.

I doubt the specific game could alter anything about the fans behaviour - it's more likely they are just exposing something in the gpu fan profile by utilising it heavily. But of course, I could be wrong!

55 degrees celsius is abnormally low for running games. How did you measure this? Try MangoHUD overlay to see it in 'realtime' at load inside the game. It also gives you a bunch of other useful metrics, like CPU and GPU load. You can use goverlay to customise it conveniently, or just use the cfg files.

I can only speak for a Nvidia gpu (1070) but after I switched to Linux, I had to set my fan controls manually as the automatic setting basically meant they never went on (I discovered to my shock and horror). Now I have a 3rd party fan curve script that starts up at boot time and it's very aggressive giving me cooler temps yet more noise.

Just some quirks of gaming :)

Quoting: rojimboo55 degrees celsius is abnormally low for running games

Really ? I currently have a GTX 1070, and I usually reach around this temperature or lower when gaming... Or maybe we are talking about laptops ?

Quoting: furaxhornyx

Quoting: rojimboo55 degrees celsius is abnormally low for running games

Really ? I currently have a GTX 1070, and I usually reach around this temperature or lower when gaming... Or maybe we are talking about laptops ?

What are you using to measure your temps when under load? Not that I don't doubt you, but you must have some pretty good cooling to reach temps like that on the 1070s. Custom watercooling levels maybe, or 3rd party air cooling.

I myself have one of the better ones on the market, MSI gaming X one, with an aggressive custom fan profile (80%@60C) and I still frequently hit 70-85C with good Noctua case cooling to boot. These things just run hot. I know there is a slight stock OC on it, but from my testing it didn't make much of a difference to undervolt it, and the performance hit is not something I enjoy.

[benchmarks](https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070-review,9.html#:~:text=First%20up%2C%20IDLE%20(desktop),40%20Degrees%20C%20is%20nice.)

Quoting: rojimbooWhat are you using to measure your temps when under load? Not that I don't doubt you, but you must have some pretty good cooling to reach temps like that on the 1070s. Custom watercooling levels maybe, or 3rd party air cooling.

I use the GPU temperature report from nVidia X server settings. I had similar temperatures report when I was using Windows 7, so there's no reason that I could doubt the results displayed in nVidia settings panel.

I do not have any custom cooling on my GPU (Asus Strix something, don't have the exact reference at hand), but my case is a (old) Thermaltake, with plenty of space and quite a few cooling fans. No manual overclock, but the GPU might be slightly overclocked fro manufacturer, and the cooling (I checked for you :wink: ) is done by 3 fans.

I used CoreCtrl to measure the temperature. I installed the game through Lutris, but the behaviour remains the same. I installed also the amdgpu-pro driver from the AMD website, but (guess what?!) nothing changed. The thing is I don't get in the game for the fans to behave that way. They start the moment I reach the main menu of the game. And apart from being annoying, I think that this behaviour is not good for the "health" of the fans either.

Quoting: furaxhornyxI use the GPU temperature report from nVidia X server settings.

You mean nvidia-settings gui, under the Thermal Settings tab? You have it open in a separate window or something whilst you game in windowed mode? Or what is your measurement process?

Have you checked your gpu loads at the same time? Ideally you should check temps exactly when the load is high, with an overlay like MangoHUD. If you alt tab then the load goes down, or if the game barely uses any gpu, then the temps are kinda meaningless. I would try it with either MangoHUD after observing for a couple minutes of an intensive gameplay, where the GPU load has been high consistently high for a few minutes (basically most non-indie games for the past few years or a benchmark like Unigine, 3dMark), or simply with 'watch -n 2 nvidia-smi' or anything like that that shows it under current load quickly (in a second monitor or something).

I'm not asking these things because it's a case of 'well FOR ME, things are different' and I hate being shown I'm doing something wrong with my rig. In fact, that would be nice, so that things can improve. I'm saying this because the benchmarks are all reporting above 70C @stock (I linked one), which is exactly what I'm seeing too. 55C or lower under load seems extremely, suspiciously low.

Same thing with OP - 55C is extremely low/impossible for a RX 570 according to reviews, which means we cannot rule out thermal throttling if the temp measurements are wrong:

https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2884-gigabyte-rx-570-aorus-review-vs-470-580-gtx1060/page-3#:~:text=Starting%20with%20frequency%20versus%20temperature,76C%20under%20a%20torture%20scenario.

edit: weird url stuff, why can't I get it working

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Quoting: rojimbooYou mean nvidia-settings gui, under the Thermal Settings tab? You have it open in a separate window or
something whilst you game in windowed mode? Or what is your measurement process?

I just checked the temperature under Thermal settings tab you mention, after a few hours of Valheim. Nothing scientific about it, I just wanted to double-check that the GPU temperature was in the range I expected it to be.

To be clear, I don't run benchmarks, I don't monitor my GPU when gaming (only fps counter with Steam overlay), because I usually don't care :wink:
(I used to do that under Windows though, typically when upgrading GPU. In all my past checks, I never really went over 55-60°C, more usually around 45-50-ish °C, depending obviously on the game).

Also, keep in mind where are talking about gaming (specifically Elex), not "torture test scnerios" like they usually do on benchmarks.

Quoting: furaxhornyxI just checked the temperature under Thermal settings tab you mention, after a few hours of Valheim. Nothing scientific about it, I just wanted to double-check that the GPU temperature was in the range I expected it to be.

You alt-tabbed to check the temps?

Edit: Actually, I can reproduce this if I check the temps in nvidia-settings after I quit the game. It goes like this:

idle = 45C

load at 100% after 5 minutes of Witcher 3 = 72C (checked in-game with MangoHUD and verified by alt-tabbing in nvidia-settings)

idle after quitting game after around 5seconds = 54C

Needless to say, this does not represent gaming temps and is not useful when trying to determine whether there is thermal throttling or investigating fan behaviour.

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