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Title: Denuvo Disappointment

Pengling 17 Jun 2023

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Not too long ago, Capcom announced a remake of the criminally-overlooked Nintendo DS game, Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective - a detective/adventure/puzzle game from the creator of the excellent Ace Attorney series. It finally [went up on Steam recently](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1967430/Ghost_Trick_Phantom_Detective/) and I went to wishlist it because it really is a great title - but then I noticed that it's going to have Denuvo Anti-tamper. Suffice it to say, I'll be skipping it until that's removed, leaving me unlikely to buy it at full-price.

It seems so odd to me to stick Denuvo on an up-port of a 13-year-old DS game, and it's a real shame that this basically punishes those who want to support the official releases early on - and I have no idea if Capcom removes Denuvo promptly after a game's launch, either.

I've only been a console expat for less than two years, so I've never run into this before (though I'm sure I will again, unfortunately), but I was disappointed enough by this one that I just had to ramble a little bit about it. Ah well, there's plenty more to play! :tongue:

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StoneColdSpider 17 Jun 2023

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Thanks for the heads up........ Added it to my ignore list because of Denuvo....... Even if they remove Denuvo I will be waiting for it to go on super sale for under 10 Dollarydoos......

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Klaas 17 Jun 2023

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Boo. And there are Denuvo apologists as well:

Aaand for what reason would you want to alter the game? I don't see any...

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Grogan 17 Jun 2023

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What kills me the most about Denuvo is how it makes the game executables 100 times the size. (e.g. typically a Denuvo infected game is around 400 Mb)

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Grogan 17 Jun 2023

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Quoting: KlaasBoo. And there are Denuvo apologists as well:

Aaand for what reason would you want to alter the game? I don't see any...

Oh man, I can't stand those fawning, obsequious tools in game forums. It doesn't matter what it is, they'll defend the company's behaviour.

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damarrin 17 Jun 2023

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I loved this so much on the iPad. I was going to get it on PC because mobile games tend to disappear after a while, but Denuvo is a problem for me, too.

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walther von stolzing 18 Jun 2023

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Sigh, you need to cut them some slack. Debian 12 just got released. How many developers does Devuan have? Do you realize how hard it's getting to release a distro purged from systemd?

But no... people *demand* their precious GNOME 48 or whatever... and Devuan has to deliver. Devuan has to figure out how to make pulse-plumbing to work without systemd. Devuan this, Devuan that; Devuan, Devuan, Devuan.

Devuan owes you nothing, buddy. Geez.

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Pengling 18 Jun 2023

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Quoting: wvstolzingSigh, you need to cut them some slack. Debian 12 just got released. How many developers does Devuan have? Do you realize how hard it's getting to release a distro purged from systemd?

But no... people *demand* their precious GNOME 48 or whatever... and Devuan has to deliver. Devuan has to figure out how to make pulse-plumbing to work without systemd. Devuan this, Devuan that; Devuan, Devuan, Devuan.

Devuan owes you nothing, buddy. Geez.

Um, I'm really sorry, but I don't know what Devuan is, and I don't use GNOME... I'm complaining about a DRM scheme that a closed-source Japanese video game developer is using...

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StoneColdSpider 18 Jun 2023

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Quoting: PenglingUm, I'm really sorry, but I don't know what Devuan is, and I don't use GNOME... I'm complaining about a DRM scheme that a closed-source Japanese video game developer is using...

I think they got the evil DRM [Denuvo](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denuvo) confused with the Debian Linux fork called [Devuan......](https://www.devuan.org/)
[Maybe they shouldve gone to specksavers.......](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6aK3cVX2Ts)

Last edited by StoneColdSpider on 18 Jun 2023 at 3:08 am UTC

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Grogan 18 Jun 2023

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I wonder if a Linux distribution protected by Denuvo might be a good idea. It's not fair that there's no native Linux port of Denuvo, and this would get them to port it!

We could call it... wait for it...

Denuvian :sick:

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Smoke39 18 Jun 2023

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Quoting: Penglingand I have no idea if Capcom removes Denuvo promptly after a game's launch, either.

I was looking into the newer Resident Evil games on PC Gaming Wiki not too long ago, and it seems to vary a lot:

RE7: ~2 years
RE2 remake: ~a year
RE3 remake: ~half a year
RE8: ~2 years

2 and 3 are remakes, and I think 3 is shorter than 2, so there's some evidence that a smaller-scale re-release might be a relatively shorter wait, but who knows? :unsure:

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