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Playtron plan to launch PlaytronOS, a Linux-based system for gaming
By Liam Dawe, 19 March 2024 at 1:47 pm UTC
By Liam Dawe, 19 March 2024 at 1:47 pm UTC
Quoting: kerossinDo any of the people from these companies have actually said they're involved in Playtron and do they work for Playtron?They work for Playtron, previously at those other companies. Added "previously" to clarify that.
Playtron plan to launch PlaytronOS, a Linux-based system for gaming
By kerossin, 19 March 2024 at 1:46 pm UTC
Do any of the people from these companies have actually said they're involved in Playtron and do they work for Playtron?
With the video being stolen this is starting to smell more like a scam that's trying to look legit by throwing around big names.
By kerossin, 19 March 2024 at 1:46 pm UTC
Quoting: Liam DaweOne of the videos used in The Verge's article supplied by Playtron was also hit with a copyright strike, as Playtron took it from someone. Not a good start....
QuoteMany others are involved who have developer experience from the likes of Google, Amazon, Red Hat, Meta, Samsung, SEGA and more.
Do any of the people from these companies have actually said they're involved in Playtron and do they work for Playtron?
With the video being stolen this is starting to smell more like a scam that's trying to look legit by throwing around big names.
Knock knock. Who's there? More scam apps on Canonical's Snap Store!
By kerossin, 19 March 2024 at 1:42 pm UTC
I think you're conflating Snaps themselves and the Snap Store.
I'm not talking about the actual packaging of apps, I'm talking about the place where you get them.
Canonical chose to keep the store itself proprietary and not have the stores configurable in their implementation of snapd.
By kerossin, 19 March 2024 at 1:42 pm UTC
Quoting: BoldosQuoting: kerossinOk, so what's the point of the Snap Store?Well, the original point of having a Snap store was to have containerized desktop apps on Linux desktop.
I thought the whole point of having a closed and official Canonical-controlled store was trust - you will be getting only legit apps approved by Canonical and not some wild west of community sources.
But since Canonical does no checks it's pointless.
Random user: Hey, this is PayPalV2.
Canonical: Welcome aboard! Don't reply, this was an automated message
Anyway, is this happening on Flathub too, or snap is just more discussed with this issue?
I think you're conflating Snaps themselves and the Snap Store.
I'm not talking about the actual packaging of apps, I'm talking about the place where you get them.
Canonical chose to keep the store itself proprietary and not have the stores configurable in their implementation of snapd.
Saber Interactive splits off from Embracer Group taking various studios with them
By Alm888, 19 March 2024 at 1:29 pm UTC
Lying? Yes, absolutely. "Nefarious"? Not at all! Just protecting Public Image by trying to mask their nearly catastrophic financial state. You know, Shareholders won't be pleased if PLAION's stock market value plummets.
By Alm888, 19 March 2024 at 1:29 pm UTC
Quoting: F.UltraSo let me get this straight, Embracer themselves and all media is lying for some unknown nefarious reason?Like that is something new to them…
Lying? Yes, absolutely. "Nefarious"? Not at all! Just protecting Public Image by trying to mask their nearly catastrophic financial state. You know, Shareholders won't be pleased if PLAION's stock market value plummets.
Quoting: F.UltraAlso not entirely sure why you are conflating layoffs with finding buyers for valuable assets that you suddenly have to sell off? Remeber that Saber was a founding member of Embracer so this is not something that they really wanted to do.They need cash. Embracer has purchased a lot of dead gamedev studios in order to make an impression of a really big company. They are broke. Most of the dead weight they've got can not be re-sold in a timely manner. These studios are the only ones Embracer could find a buyer for.
Playtron plan to launch PlaytronOS, a Linux-based system for gaming
By Liam Dawe, 19 March 2024 at 1:25 pm UTC Likes: 1
By Liam Dawe, 19 March 2024 at 1:25 pm UTC Likes: 1
One of the videos used in The Verge's article supplied by Playtron was also hit with a copyright strike, as Playtron took it from someone. Not a good start....
Knock knock. Who's there? More scam apps on Canonical's Snap Store!
By pleasereadthemanual, 19 March 2024 at 1:18 pm UTC
Also, Alan Pope's article mentions that someone lost 490k to one of these crypto scam apps.
iOS doesn't have this problem on nearly the same scale despite how much more popular their app store is than the Snap Store. Yes, malicious apps have found their way onto the App Store over the past 15+ years, but only a small number of them and not regularly. Almost every app on iOS is proprietary. Yes, they have a lot more manpower to review the apps, but it shows it's possible to safely vet proprietary software.
Preventing this malware from getting on the Snap Store doesn't require analyzing the code. It requires a reviewer to realize this company is impersonating popular finance-related software they did not develop. What's that saying? "When you're wearing rose-tinted glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
By pleasereadthemanual, 19 March 2024 at 1:18 pm UTC
Quoting: eldaking1) They really should be manually reviewing at least new dev accounts. Checking not only every new app but every update to new app (easy enough to put something harmless and then push the malicious part as an update) is a lot of work, but if any rando can create an account and start publishing apps? That is badCompletely agree. This is not something you're going to pick up easily except via manual review.
2) So much work put into containerization/sandboxing, and you just let anyone distribute apps that ask for people's logins. I mean, it is good that apps can't go steal your browser cookies or replace your bootloader, don't get me wrong. But looks like there was some easier, low-tech work (having people check apps for obvious red flags) that needed to be done anyway, and it was not.
Quoting: eldaking3) They should ban absolutely all cryptocurrency apps regardless. First they are exceptionally high-risk, but also fuck ponzicoins.Mark Shuttleworth already voted not to do that: https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2024/02/snap-store-from-canonical-ubuntu-hit-with-another-crypto-scam-app/
Also, Alan Pope's article mentions that someone lost 490k to one of these crypto scam apps.
Quoting: eldaking4) The snap store is a (partial) move from a repository that Canonical actually maintains themselves (maybe badly, but they put the software there and could make all choices) to a store where they are just a middleman, and that lets devs keep control. It is obvious that for them it is less work and more profitable, and that it is attractive for proprietary apps... but this showcases exactly the kind of problem of this approach: you are getting blackbox software from a bunch of randos, not free software from a trusted distro.This is probably an unpopular opinion, but I want proprietary software on Linux. If the Snap Store is the only way I can download Adobe After Effects, I'm completely willing to do that. The Snap Store and Flathub makes it easier for Adobe to target Linux should they ever change their mind about whether to support it in the next 15 years.
iOS doesn't have this problem on nearly the same scale despite how much more popular their app store is than the Snap Store. Yes, malicious apps have found their way onto the App Store over the past 15+ years, but only a small number of them and not regularly. Almost every app on iOS is proprietary. Yes, they have a lot more manpower to review the apps, but it shows it's possible to safely vet proprietary software.
Preventing this malware from getting on the Snap Store doesn't require analyzing the code. It requires a reviewer to realize this company is impersonating popular finance-related software they did not develop. What's that saying? "When you're wearing rose-tinted glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
Knock knock. Who's there? More scam apps on Canonical's Snap Store!
By NathanaelKStottlemyer, 19 March 2024 at 1:06 pm UTC
Popeye?
By NathanaelKStottlemyer, 19 March 2024 at 1:06 pm UTC
Quoting: BrokattPopeye is such a great guy. Even though he's left Canonical behind, he's still involved with Ubuntu and Snaps.
Popeye?
Steam Families announced with parental controls, no more library locking
By MayeulC, 19 March 2024 at 1:03 pm UTC
I don't think it's against Steam TOS, their support also invited me to create a new account when I got a VAC ban ~15 years ago.
By MayeulC, 19 March 2024 at 1:03 pm UTC
Quoting: CatKillerQuoting: poiuzI'm pretty sure that having an alt is against the TOS, so they're unlikely to recommend it in their FAQ.Quoting: CatKillerNot unless you Family Share with yourself as an alt account.Did you or someone test this with the beta client? I don't think I saw this scenario mentioned in the FAQ.
I don't think it's against Steam TOS, their support also invited me to create a new account when I got a VAC ban ~15 years ago.
GOG team up with Amazon Luna for cloud gaming
By yndoendo, 19 March 2024 at 12:58 pm UTC Likes: 1
By yndoendo, 19 March 2024 at 12:58 pm UTC Likes: 1
The only business I do with Amazon is take their money and never give them a penny. I will not fund billionaire Jeff Bezos and how his company treats their employees! Good example of economics where one sees value and another sees something completely worthless.
Knock knock. Who's there? More scam apps on Canonical's Snap Store!
By eldaking, 19 March 2024 at 12:58 pm UTC Likes: 3
By eldaking, 19 March 2024 at 12:58 pm UTC Likes: 3
I have a bunch of loose thoughts about this.
1) They really should be manually reviewing at least new dev accounts. Checking not only every new app but every update to new app (easy enough to put something harmless and then push the malicious part as an update) is a lot of work, but if any rando can create an account and start publishing apps? That is bad
2) So much work put into containerization/sandboxing, and you just let anyone distribute apps that ask for people's logins. I mean, it is good that apps can't go steal your browser cookies or replace your bootloader, don't get me wrong. But looks like there was some easier, low-tech work (having people check apps for obvious red flags) that needed to be done anyway, and it was not.
3) They should ban absolutely all cryptocurrency apps regardless. First they are exceptionally high-risk, but also fuck ponzicoins.
4) The snap store is a (partial) move from a repository that Canonical actually maintains themselves (maybe badly, but they put the software there and could make all choices) to a store where they are just a middleman, and that lets devs keep control. It is obvious that for them it is less work and more profitable, and that it is attractive for proprietary apps... but this showcases exactly the kind of problem of this approach: you are getting blackbox software from a bunch of randos, not free software from a trusted distro.
1) They really should be manually reviewing at least new dev accounts. Checking not only every new app but every update to new app (easy enough to put something harmless and then push the malicious part as an update) is a lot of work, but if any rando can create an account and start publishing apps? That is bad
2) So much work put into containerization/sandboxing, and you just let anyone distribute apps that ask for people's logins. I mean, it is good that apps can't go steal your browser cookies or replace your bootloader, don't get me wrong. But looks like there was some easier, low-tech work (having people check apps for obvious red flags) that needed to be done anyway, and it was not.
3) They should ban absolutely all cryptocurrency apps regardless. First they are exceptionally high-risk, but also fuck ponzicoins.
4) The snap store is a (partial) move from a repository that Canonical actually maintains themselves (maybe badly, but they put the software there and could make all choices) to a store where they are just a middleman, and that lets devs keep control. It is obvious that for them it is less work and more profitable, and that it is attractive for proprietary apps... but this showcases exactly the kind of problem of this approach: you are getting blackbox software from a bunch of randos, not free software from a trusted distro.
GOG team up with Amazon Luna for cloud gaming
By Liam Dawe, 19 March 2024 at 12:52 pm UTC Likes: 1
By Liam Dawe, 19 March 2024 at 12:52 pm UTC Likes: 1
Quoting: legluondunetSteam has a similar service with Geforce Now, but you do not have access to all your games, it depend on devs authorizations.Before that, we need all these streaming services to stop screwing with Linux giving us a lower resolution.
Soon we will no more need a gaming console, nor install or tweak them, to play games on Linux, we will just need a good internet connection. And we will no more need to buy expensive graphic card, with Geforce Now you can play on your TV in 4K/60fps/RayTracing if you have a good internet connection.
GOG team up with Amazon Luna for cloud gaming
By pleasereadthemanual, 19 March 2024 at 12:50 pm UTC
By pleasereadthemanual, 19 March 2024 at 12:50 pm UTC
Sounds like an interesting strategy. Amazon Luna isn't available in Australia, though.
The one game I want to play on Linux that I can't is Rainbow Six: Siege, but that game has awful latency with cloud gaming services anyway. Amazon Luna does have keyboard + mouse support, which is nice.
The one game I want to play on Linux that I can't is Rainbow Six: Siege, but that game has awful latency with cloud gaming services anyway. Amazon Luna does have keyboard + mouse support, which is nice.
CoreCtrl adds AMD RX 7000 series fan curve controls, Intel CPU temperature sensors
By dpanter, 19 March 2024 at 12:47 pm UTC Likes: 1
Huge news! :)
By dpanter, 19 March 2024 at 12:47 pm UTC Likes: 1
QuoteAutomatic and curve fan controls for AMD RX 7000 series.
Huge news! :)
Knock knock. Who's there? More scam apps on Canonical's Snap Store!
By LINUX-SAUNA, 19 March 2024 at 12:30 pm UTC Likes: 1
By LINUX-SAUNA, 19 March 2024 at 12:30 pm UTC Likes: 1
Would be good to sort these issues out before next month's Ubuntu 24.04 LTS
Knock knock. Who's there? More scam apps on Canonical's Snap Store!
By pleasereadthemanual, 19 March 2024 at 12:26 pm UTC Likes: 3
By pleasereadthemanual, 19 March 2024 at 12:26 pm UTC Likes: 3
How is it that despite Flathub hosting over 2,500 packages and being responsible for over 1.7 million downloads over the past 6 years, I have not seen a single reported case of malware, but the Snap Store has had three incidents in the past 5 months?
What are they doing differently? Does Flathub detect malware early, and if so, where can I find statistics about this? Is the Snap Store that much more popular? Most likely; they had over 2,000 snaps in 2019.
Snap deemed these apps "Safe" because they did not have any permissions, but that was provably false. Flathub also categorizes apps with no permissions and auditable code as "Safe": https://flathub.org/apps/io.github.kovzol.bibref
It should say "Probably Safe" at best. It's misleading. "Auditable source code" does not mean the source code has been audited. If it has been audited, it should say, "Audited source code".
What are they doing differently? Does Flathub detect malware early, and if so, where can I find statistics about this? Is the Snap Store that much more popular? Most likely; they had over 2,000 snaps in 2019.
Snap deemed these apps "Safe" because they did not have any permissions, but that was provably false. Flathub also categorizes apps with no permissions and auditable code as "Safe": https://flathub.org/apps/io.github.kovzol.bibref
It should say "Probably Safe" at best. It's misleading. "Auditable source code" does not mean the source code has been audited. If it has been audited, it should say, "Audited source code".
Valve tweaks WWE 2K24 for AMD GPUs like Steam Deck, looking into Red Alert 2 issues
By elmapul, 19 March 2024 at 12:25 pm UTC
By elmapul, 19 March 2024 at 12:25 pm UTC
wait is that graphic strange on purpose (art direction trying to emulate old mortal kombat games) or they are clueless?
Playtron plan to launch PlaytronOS, a Linux-based system for gaming
By elmapul, 19 March 2024 at 12:24 pm UTC
By elmapul, 19 March 2024 at 12:24 pm UTC
Quoting: Tevuryeah you probably is right =\Quoting: elmapulQuoting: CatKillerIt very much sounds like a scam to extract money from venture capitalists.well at least it will be from venture capitalists lol
Well, sadly this money isn't their own but from the small people in search of a way to invest a little money to supplement their pension, whom they sell shitty financial products with big promises but no real return.
GOG team up with Amazon Luna for cloud gaming
By legluondunet, 19 March 2024 at 12:24 pm UTC
By legluondunet, 19 March 2024 at 12:24 pm UTC
Steam has a similar service with Geforce Now, but you do not have access to all your games, it depends on devs authorizations.
Soon we will no more need a gaming console, nor install or tweak games, to play games on Linux, we will just need a good internet connection. And we will no more need to buy expensive hardware, like graphic card, with Geforce Now you can play on your TV in 4K/60fps/RayTracing if you have a good internet connection.
Soon we will no more need a gaming console, nor install or tweak games, to play games on Linux, we will just need a good internet connection. And we will no more need to buy expensive hardware, like graphic card, with Geforce Now you can play on your TV in 4K/60fps/RayTracing if you have a good internet connection.
Knock knock. Who's there? More scam apps on Canonical's Snap Store!
By robvv, 19 March 2024 at 12:20 pm UTC Likes: 1
By robvv, 19 March 2024 at 12:20 pm UTC Likes: 1
Blimey. I think I'll just stick with my distro's repositories which are at least curated!
Steam Families announced with parental controls, no more library locking
By CatKiller, 19 March 2024 at 12:18 pm UTC
By CatKiller, 19 March 2024 at 12:18 pm UTC
Quoting: poiuzI meant whether they're still blocking the same account (my own games on my account, nothing shared) on two devices.Yes, that's still blocked.
Knock knock. Who's there? More scam apps on Canonical's Snap Store!
By g000h, 19 March 2024 at 12:08 pm UTC
By g000h, 19 March 2024 at 12:08 pm UTC
Yes, it is pretty serious to consider that the whole software landscape is in danger of threats like this. I imagine this attack vector is partly a result of Linux's growing desktop market share, where there are more inexperienced users nowadays, who are easier to trick with malware exploits.
Into the future running an active firewall application (such as Safing Portmaster) might be an essential protective measure.
Check out Jack Rhysider's podcast talking to a real crypto scammer (and the various tricks that were implemented):
https://odysee.com/@jackrhysider:4/the-cops-had-no-idea-he-just-stole-1:a
Into the future running an active firewall application (such as Safing Portmaster) might be an essential protective measure.
Check out Jack Rhysider's podcast talking to a real crypto scammer (and the various tricks that were implemented):
https://odysee.com/@jackrhysider:4/the-cops-had-no-idea-he-just-stole-1:a
Knock knock. Who's there? More scam apps on Canonical's Snap Store!
By Boldos, 19 March 2024 at 11:49 am UTC Likes: 1
Anyway, is this happening on Flathub too, or snap is just more discussed with this issue?
By Boldos, 19 March 2024 at 11:49 am UTC Likes: 1
Quoting: kerossinOk, so what's the point of the Snap Store?Well, the original point of having a Snap store was to have containerized desktop apps on Linux desktop.
I thought the whole point of having a closed and official Canonical-controlled store was trust - you will be getting only legit apps approved by Canonical and not some wild west of community sources.
But since Canonical does no checks it's pointless.
Random user: Hey, this is PayPalV2.
Canonical: Welcome aboard! Don't reply, this was an automated message
Anyway, is this happening on Flathub too, or snap is just more discussed with this issue?
Steam Families announced with parental controls, no more library locking
By poiuz, 19 March 2024 at 11:47 am UTC Likes: 1
By poiuz, 19 March 2024 at 11:47 am UTC Likes: 1
Quoting: CatKillerI'm pretty sure that having an alt is against the TOS, so they're unlikely to recommend it in their FAQ.I meant whether they're still blocking the same account (my own games on my account, nothing shared) on two devices.
Steam Families announced with parental controls, no more library locking
By Belaptir, 19 March 2024 at 11:40 am UTC
By Belaptir, 19 March 2024 at 11:40 am UTC
So I already tried it and... it's been weird.
We have 2 decks at home, so we both updated to beta and I created a family group to invite the other person.
Right after this, both decks became unusable since there was some kind of problem where trying to access any game would show us a black screen saying that Steam can't find the content and some long error code. No matter if we restarted or anything, gaming mode was unusable.
Fortunately, desktop mode works perfectly.
So, since we mostly play on gaming mode, we reverted back to stable branch and, to our surprise, the family group is still there (not accessible through the steam menu options) and we can play as if we were still in a group.
I guess we'll stay in stable for now, but at least we were able to start the group and share games without the limits from before family groups.
We have 2 decks at home, so we both updated to beta and I created a family group to invite the other person.
Right after this, both decks became unusable since there was some kind of problem where trying to access any game would show us a black screen saying that Steam can't find the content and some long error code. No matter if we restarted or anything, gaming mode was unusable.
Fortunately, desktop mode works perfectly.
So, since we mostly play on gaming mode, we reverted back to stable branch and, to our surprise, the family group is still there (not accessible through the steam menu options) and we can play as if we were still in a group.
I guess we'll stay in stable for now, but at least we were able to start the group and share games without the limits from before family groups.
Knock knock. Who's there? More scam apps on Canonical's Snap Store!
By Brokatt, 19 March 2024 at 11:26 am UTC Likes: 1
By Brokatt, 19 March 2024 at 11:26 am UTC Likes: 1
Popeye is such a great guy. Even though he's left Canonical behind, he's still involved with Ubuntu and Snaps.
Knock knock. Who's there? More scam apps on Canonical's Snap Store!
By kerossin, 19 March 2024 at 11:09 am UTC Likes: 7
By kerossin, 19 March 2024 at 11:09 am UTC Likes: 7
Ok, so what's the point of the Snap Store?
I thought the whole point of having a closed and official Canonical-controlled store was trust - you will be getting only legit apps approved by Canonical and not some wild west of community sources.
But since Canonical does no checks it's pointless.
Random user: Hey, this is PayPalV2.
Canonical: Welcome aboard! Don't reply, this was an automated message
I thought the whole point of having a closed and official Canonical-controlled store was trust - you will be getting only legit apps approved by Canonical and not some wild west of community sources.
But since Canonical does no checks it's pointless.
Random user: Hey, this is PayPalV2.
Canonical: Welcome aboard! Don't reply, this was an automated message
Valve tweaks WWE 2K24 for AMD GPUs like Steam Deck, looking into Red Alert 2 issues
By StoneColdSpider, 19 March 2024 at 10:57 am UTC
By StoneColdSpider, 19 March 2024 at 10:57 am UTC
What???..... A WWE 2K game was released with a ton of bugs???.......
Im shocked...... Shocked I tells ya.......
Im shocked...... Shocked I tells ya.......
Knock knock. Who's there? More scam apps on Canonical's Snap Store!
By popey, 19 March 2024 at 10:53 am UTC Likes: 1
By popey, 19 March 2024 at 10:53 am UTC Likes: 1
<3
Broken Sword - Shadow of the Templars remaster hits over £400k on Kickstarter
By kokoko3k, 19 March 2024 at 10:51 am UTC
By kokoko3k, 19 March 2024 at 10:51 am UTC
Quoting: scaineWhy you trying to rewrite their comment?It was just a joke with no intent to polemize, but since you're asking, it's because I sensed a contradiction stemming from the similarity in the outcomes of "for free" and "piracy".
Steam Families announced with parental controls, no more library locking
By CatKiller, 19 March 2024 at 10:34 am UTC
By CatKiller, 19 March 2024 at 10:34 am UTC
Quoting: poiuzI'm pretty sure that having an alt is against the TOS, so they're unlikely to recommend it in their FAQ.Quoting: CatKillerNot unless you Family Share with yourself as an alt account.Did you or someone test this with the beta client? I don't think I saw this scenario mentioned in the FAQ.
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