Quoting: Purple Library Guy[...]

So. Here's Valve, trying to break the cycle. [...]

It seems that Microsoft is also trying to break the cycle, seeing the increasing number of people being p*ssed off by Windows 11 (like I was with Windows 10) :tongue:

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VERIFIED: 14 games (7.29%)
PLAYABLE: 14 games (7.29%)
UNSUPPORTED: 1 games (0.52%)
UNKNOWN: 163 games (84.9%)

The unsupported game being For Honor, and I think it was just when I tried the demo. Speaking of which, demos seems to be included as well, but some of them were installed just to find out if the game could run on Linux.

Also, some of the "unknown" games are native games, such as Albion Online, Carrion, Children of Morta, Don't Starve, Pine, etc.

Fun fact: Slay the Spire is only Playable, but not Verified, I wonder what's wrong, since I believe it was released on the Switch

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Looks like quicker wrist pain :grin:

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Quoting: ElectricPrismEverybody keep up on exercise and personal wellness, we need to function in order to help those that need us.

^Exactly this.

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Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: furaxhornyx

Quoting: sub

Quoting: gradyvuckovicSurprised there's no "Steam Deck Sale" planned. Maybe they will wait a year, make sure everyone who wants a Deck, has one, before they do the sale.

(1/2 off-topic)

I'd like to see Valve giving devs/publishers a discount on the platform fees as an incentive when they provide a native Linux build for a long time.

Wouldn't that be an even greater thing for the Steam Deck?
I mean that would help twofold:
Getting more games to the Deck, making it more attractive,
plus, giving native Linux games a push.

But then, publishers would be able to release their Linux build on some other platforms, rather than being dependent on Proton... Now, I am not saying that Valve is trying to do anything evil, just pointing out the fact that more Linux builds may not be that much beneficial, from Valve's point of view.

If there was a big enough audience for Linux stuff for anyone to care about it just as a market rather than, as Valve does, for strategic reasons, it would be easy enough for other platforms to deploy Proton. It's open source after all.

You are speaking about other platforms implementing Proton, which I agree with, but I was speaking about game publishers being able to put native Linux version on other platforms than Valve's, independently of the other platforms implementing Proton or not.

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Quoting: sub

Quoting: gradyvuckovicSurprised there's no "Steam Deck Sale" planned. Maybe they will wait a year, make sure everyone who wants a Deck, has one, before they do the sale.

(1/2 off-topic)

I'd like to see Valve giving devs/publishers a discount on the platform fees as an incentive when they provide a native Linux build for a long time.

Wouldn't that be an even greater thing for the Steam Deck?
I mean that would help twofold:
Getting more games to the Deck, making it more attractive,
plus, giving native Linux games a push.

But then, publishers would be able to release their Linux build on some other platforms, rather than being dependent on Proton... Now, I am not saying that Valve is trying to do anything evil, just pointing out the fact that more Linux builds may not be that much beneficial, from Valve's point of view.

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Quoting: xavi

Quoting: furaxhornyx

Quoting: Nezchan

Quoting: Purple Library GuySo the title is "Vampire Survivors". So, are you a vampire trying to survive a zombie apocalypse, or just a person trying to survive vampires?

The latter. Basically think if Castlevania was a twin-stick shooter.

It gets very silly towards the last five minutes or so (runs are max 20 minutes long, then you die).

So, do you ever "win", or is just a "survive as long as you can, but you will inevitably lose" ?

If you survive for 30 min in a zone, you win and then another zone is discovered.
I bought it yesterday, played for 2.6 h and won two times.
But there are achievements, and more weapons, ...
Think roguelite because with the coins you find you buy more power for your stuff.
In my opinion Risk of Rain is much better, but this is easy to play.

Quite addicting! but I suppose just for a few days.

Thanks, probably not the kind of roguelites I like then... Or maybe I'll try it on a sale :wink:

EDIT: noticed that the game price is very low already... Maybe I'll give it a try, out of curiosity, then

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Quoting: Nezchan

Quoting: Purple Library GuySo the title is "Vampire Survivors". So, are you a vampire trying to survive a zombie apocalypse, or just a person trying to survive vampires?

The latter. Basically think if Castlevania was a twin-stick shooter.

It gets very silly towards the last five minutes or so (runs are max 20 minutes long, then you die).

So, do you ever "win", or is just a "survive as long as you can, but you will inevitably lose" ?

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Quoting: poiuzThere is a simple reason, not to ship it: If they ship it, they have to support it! That will always cost resources (i.e. money).

Except they don't need to officially support Linux through Proton either. They can just enable it for anyone wishing to play the game while clearly stating they do not offer any support or guarantees about the compatibility continuing to work in the future.

Sure, sounds a bit hypocritical, because it is, but if this was opt-out instead of opt-in nobody would ever call them out for their game breaking at some point.

Lets be real, EAC and BattleEye won't just drop support for Proton now that it's officially included, not unless there's a huge reason to do so, nor would it just stop working for anyone using the official Proton builds from Steam.

The only real world issue with any of this is how userspace detection of cheats on the client side is never going to catch up with kernelspace detection, therefore devs might be reluctant to potentially downgrade the experience for the majority of their userbase over us.
With that being said, I'm not even sure if EAC or BattleEye is actually kernelspace on Windows at this point.

Quoting: Mal

Quoting: poiuzThere is a simple reason, not to ship it: If they ship it, they have to support it! That will always cost resources (i.e. money).

False. Even today you can (try to) run any windows game on wine or proton, and if works fine, if it doesn't work the developers don't owe you support. You can open tickets ofc. But they can copy paste "not supported" and close them faster than you open them.

As a customer I would expect that "proton supported" games, with the badge clearly visible on the steam page, will offer support. But that's on voluntary basis.

Unfortunately, it may be a bit more complicated than that.
Sure, they may choose to enable compatibility and not support Linux users.

However, they still need to support their current users against cheaters, be they using Windows, Linux, or whatever. Which means testing, to be sure that some nasty people don't find a way to cheat through this compatibility, and ruin the game for your player base, which would be terrible.

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So, this is an hardware emulator, for people still owning the cartridges, but no longer the console, right ?
What is the difference with simply using emulators and ROM then ?

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