Quoting: Liam DaweI think perhaps it's more a case that DXVK was just there and ready for them, so it was far easier to do this way?

Forking an existing tool is much easier than creating your own from scratch, for sure; if they'd done the latter then it would be a much stronger signal that they don't like using DirectX. But they didn't need to use Vulkan at all: Direct3D can do ray tracing. So they've made a decision to use Vulkan.

It might be that they prefer the ins-and-outs of using Vulkan; it might be that they wanted it to be multiplatform (which a DirectX solution wouldn't be); it might be that they wanted it to be open source (which a DirectX solution wouldn't be). Any combination of those would be good things, I think.

But, yeah, maybe there were enough OpenGL games that they didn't want to leave behind, and maybe Collabora's OpenGL-to-DirectX translator just isn't as good as DXVK; but that's not as interesting.

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It does this with thanks to the DXVK translation layer, which NVIDIA now have their own fork of just for this.

This suggests to me that Nvidia internally prioritise Vulkan over Direct3D. They could have just done it in DXR, and stayed in the DirectX realm, but they've chosen to translate all those DirectX games into Vulkan instead.

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DXVK translates Direct3D 9 / 10 and 11 into Vulkan for Proton and Wine, used on Linux desktop and Steam Deck for gaming.

It's also been used for some games on Windows, to improve performance there.

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Quoting: stormtuxI do not think Valve is preoccupied of this device, I think they are enthusiastic about it.

This is full of win for Valve. The biggest chunk of the games to be played on this device are going to be bought on Steam, which is money in Valve's pocket. Someone else is shouldering the logistics task of expanding the number of handheld gaming devices, which puts more pressure on game developers to address things like controller support and text size on a tiny screen. And even with direct support from Microsoft to hit this price point, all the reviews are saying, "you know what? Windows is kinda crap; Linux is way better." The only thing that could make Valve happier is if Asus release a subsequent version that comes with Linux instead.

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Quoting: EikeIs this sort of a counterstrike(*) by Microsoft as well? ASUS cannot hand out game passes without an agreement with Microsoft, and MS could be interested in fighting that the PC handheld market is Linux dominated at the moment...

(*) Is it a global offensive already? :-D

Microsoft are a strategic partner for this device - lots of cross-promotion and likely Microsoft paid them to have Windows on it rather than the other way round. So much so that Asus aren't sure they're contractually allowed to support the hardware after a user has installed Linux on it. Both parties appear to have assumed that everyone will simply fawn over Windows and ignore the reality of what it's like to use in comparison to Linux.

Edit: sauce [External Link]

Speaking of rivalries, Microsoft may have also precluded the ROG Ally’s SteamOS possibilities: “our partner for this device is Microsoft, it’s primarily made as a Windows device, and it’s made only as a Windows device,” says Krohn. But he’s not sure if the deal precludes Asus from supporting SteamOS if users install it themselves.

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Quoting: constDoes it even have gyro?

It has a gyro, but the Asus software doesn't let you use it. To be fair, the same was true of the Steam Controller at launch.

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Quoting: Avehicle7887Logged in just to say the same thing but you beat me to it.:wink:

This excuse is old and very inaccurate. I've plenty of native Linux games which run perfectly fine on a number of distros, and if the Roblox devs want to make it easy on themselves they could just target a slightly older Ubuntu distro.

They don't even need to do that: Valve have abstracted away the library differences between distros with the Steam Linux Runtime [External Link]. Build against those libraries and it doesn't matter what the distros do - your game is run in a container isolated from the system libraries.

Testing on Ubuntu as your target platform is still sensible, of course, as the popular distro with conservative updates (the same reasons Valve picked it as the basis for the SLR).

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Quoting: GuestMaybe I spent too much time on Reddit. It seems any time it's come up people rally behind that idea and argue/downvote anyone otherwise.

Any time spent on Reddit is too much time spent on Reddit.

But people do claim that Proton is better than native, even here, which is unfortunate.

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it’s not worthwhile if it makes it easy for exploiters to cheat.

That's a hell of an assumption right there.

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Linux native, controller support, and slower paced: they should definitely look at getting that green tick as soon as they're able. How does it play on the Deck? I'll keep an eye on this one for the little one: he loves puzzle games.

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