Quoting: Terminusaquo

Quoting: Whitewolfe80

Quoting: epsaavedraI trust Microsoft as much as I trust Google, Oracle or Apple, which is to say very, very little. Unless there is a huge show of support, like opensourcing Windows 7 or Visual Studio, then I'm inclined to think this is just marketing talk.

I ll be honest if they open sourced windows 7 i would go back to running windows exclusively as it was windows 10 that got me on linux full time.

Now that's a good idea, open source older versions of Windows. As a Windows and Linux user that would satisfy me as well as I would have a 100% binary compatible open source OS

Now this is the perspective I don't get, at all. Why would opening the source of any Windows version make it more attractive to use? NTFS wouldn't suddenly get better. It can never get better because it's dying a death of a thousand cuts. Everything that is horrible about using Windows (drive letters, registry, abysmal userland design, etc) would still be present including the horrible UI/UX design, which can easily be replicated in other desktop environments. There are some positives that could come from Microsoft opening its software stack, but Windows isn't one of them in my opinion; because Linux/GNU (and variations) is already a better OS platform.

This is why I don't evangelize to Windows users much. I want people to use Linux/GNU (and specifically Fedora) because it's a good OS and the user likes how it works. I don't want Linux land flooded with 'permissive open source' Windows users that want to do Windows in Linux. I want to help people learn to do Linux things better, not Windows things better on Linux. That's my personal Linux learning goal as well. That doesn't mean we don't adopt smart ideas from outside, but that we blaze our own way not follow Microsoft, Google, or Apple.

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Quoting: Mountain ManI don't trust Microsoft. Their response to open source has been a typical "embrace and extend" strategy. They're not trying to coexist with open source, they're trying to control it.

Yep. You can see that by the companies they're buying. Buying... not contributing to, you know, like you would do with open source. Same old MS.

That is why Copy Left (GPL and the like) FOSS licensing is so important in my opinion. With FOSS they have to share improvements they use back with with the community and upstream projects. With Permissive OS (MIT and the like) licensing they do not.

Additionally when companies like Apple and Microsoft support Permissive OS licensing they co-opt good will as if they're supporting FOSS as well. This is because, in my opinion, FOSS and Permissive Open Source is generally so conflated now. Many (maybe most) people I interact with don't even perceive a difference between the two.

So when Microsoft says they see the errors of their ways with Open Source, I think they mean the kind of Open Source that primarily benefits them, not the FOSS that benefits the community. Yet, the message that is heard is that Microsoft loves GNU. They don't. If they did they would donate their patent portfolio to the FSF and GPL everything they own. Ha ha, yeah, that's a pipe dream.

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Quoting: randylIt better be powerful, the die size is enormous. From the blog link in the article, "....with a die size of 826 mm2".

For reference TU102 (2080ti) has a die size of 754mm2 and TU104 (2060, 2070, etc) has a die size of 554mm2.

The Volta V100, which is the predecessor of the part talked about in the keynote, has a die size of 815 mm².

The talk was about their HPC and datacentre stuff, and what they'd done with the $7 billion purchase of Mellanox, rather than GPUs. I'm quite interested in the actual details of the Ampere architecture, which I think are due on Tuesday.

GV100 are also large, power hungry, expensive, space sucking die. I feel like you reiterated my point with the comparison. They created a huge hot costly processing unit instead of improving architecture like AMD has done. Piling on more transistors and power to eek out more performance doesn't excite me that much.

If anything, I think Nvidia should be concerned because Intel is right around the corner with a die shrink and new server and discrete consumer cards. It's the server cards that should really worry Nvidia, but they'll have pressure on both enterprise and consumer markets. In the last several months Intel has put massive effort into their video driver stack as well, improving performance for existing graphics chips by up to 30%. Nvidia cannot say the same on any platform. And this is important for discrete offering because server architecture is what trickles down into consumer offerings.

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Quoting: tpauNot necessarily, it may just not be part of the keynote and come independently later.

Yeah, it could come later and probably will. I think it's the how much later that people are skeptical about, not to mention the quality of that announcement.

This is just my opinion but I think historically AMD's poor market position, compared to Nvidia, has influenced them to be more open and adoptive of open source. That's just my perception. I think Nvidia possibly facing some similar struggles in the future could influence them to be more open source friendly and adoptive. Although I think they have a mountain of tech debt in their driver stack that makes doing so daunting. Also just an opinion.

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Can it be enjoyed single player, or is it like Vermintide 2 where you can for a bit, but should really do MP. This looks so much like my jam.

Checklist
- interesting tools, weapons, and attachments
- flame thrower
- resource gathering
- chaos, mayhem, and pressure
- flame thrower
- crafting and item repair
- and not to forget the flame thrower.

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It better be powerful, the die size is enormous. From the blog link in the article, "....with a die size of 826 mm2".

For reference TU102 (2080ti) has a die size of 754mm2 and TU104 (2060, 2070, etc) has a die size of 554mm2.

Bigger die size means more power, heat, and space requirements. I'm not really impressed. If anything this announcement has pretty much sealed my next rig being AMD based. Intel discrete GPUs are far enough out that I'm not considering them yet.

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Quoting: randylX4 has been on my wishlist for a while but I've held off because the feedback has been so mixed. I'm glad to see some positive feedback here.

I have a lot of time in No Man's Sky and enjoy the easy arcade style controls. I have Elite: Dangerous but don't play it much because I struggle with the sim-like flight controls. Does anyone care to give an opinion on where X4 flight controls fit in between those two examples?

Sim-like flight controls, no doubt about it. I spent hours configuring it for my Steam Controller and more hours configuring it for two different HOTAS kits. As I also spent hours configuring these for Elite: Dangerous, I must say that in my opinion the Elite controls are a bit more complex than X4, but only a bit.

Thanks for the answer. It's very helpful. The sim-like put me off some, but I'm still very interested. At least X4 offer native support while Elite is a little fussy requiring manual config, winetricks or protontricks to get .net installed.

I've been looking at HOTAS that work on Linux as an alternative to fussing with mouse config.

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X4 has been on my wishlist for a while but I've held off because the feedback has been so mixed. I'm glad to see some positive feedback here.

I have a lot of time in No Man's Sky and enjoy the easy arcade style controls. I have Elite: Dangerous but don't play it much because I struggle with the sim-like flight controls. Does anyone care to give an opinion on where X4 flight controls fit in between those two examples?

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If Aspyr doesn't want to support Linux ports for whatever reason then then that's their business and fine by me. I buy games that work on Fedora, either natively (preferable) or through wine/proton (acceptable). If Aspyr doesn't make Linux ports that's okay with me as a consumer. I may end up buying fewer of their games, but it's not personal. I just choose to support studios and publishers that make games I can play.

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Ha, this game looks hilarious. I don't think we need to take down Capitalism though. Unbridled capitalism seems to be imploding all on its own. :D

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