It’s a cycle. There is more cheater than players on Linux because there is no reason for actual players to use Linux because the games don’t support it…

Valve is trying to change that by allowing a lot of players to use Linux, so there will be more legitimates players than cheaters the next time the games developers will try to support it. I hope that a lot of people will buy SteamOS-running machines thinking "oh, well, I don’t want / need to play with theses games on it anyway", and then later, a new game with anti-cheat will appear and the players that already use SteamOS / Linux + Steam will ask for it.

Or, and I think it will be the majority, some people will use the Steam Deck and Steam Machine while still having a Windows PC for some games. But with times, they’ll start to think "it would be great if I could play this game on my couch / while travelling", and then asking for these games to support Linux. And installing Windows on an handheld or the Steam Machine is not interesting, because buying and installing Windows, for it to be slower, isn’t worth it (pre-installed Windows fix the first part, but it’s still slower…).

Let’s hope for the best.

PS: can we use Steam Link to stream a anti-cheat enabled game from a Windows computer to a Linux one running Steam?

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I really don’t understand the comments here. I mean, the 6000 and 5000 card will still work, and bug will still be fixed since it’s a maintenance mode and not a complete stop in support.

Everything. The current branch (580) has Maxwell support.

But the new AMD drivers will have RDNA and RDNA2 support too. Just not the new features on it. Or am I misunderstanding something?

Or does that mean that people using theses cards should stop updating their drivers? But then it’s not a maintenance mode, it’s a complete abandon of it, no?

Someone says that the 6800XT still work with good performances, but it will not change, it will still have great performances, even in new games if they aren’t too heavy, but that’s an hardware problem, not a software one.

I’m really confused here… x)

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Nvidia currently supports Maxwell, from 2014.

But what kind of support? Do they add new features or are they only fixing bugs?

Because AMD says that "RX 5000 and RX 6000 series are indeed going into 'maintenance mode'.", which means they’ll continue to maintain it, just not add new features.

And when they created FSR, it was supported on a lot of GPUs that didn’t had big drivers update anymore at the time, so I don’t think it’s a big deal.

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I refuse to take side, so I say RIF. :tongue:

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Quoting: IvancilloUmmh, good initiative.

Waiting for models with discrete graphic cards.

You mean the Framework 16? I don't think they’ll made a 13" with a discrete card.

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Quoting: BlackBloodRumConsidering this is Arch, shouldn't these users already know or at least be doing this themselves? I mean they do call themselves the geeks of Linux after all...

The question was already addressed when the proposal was submited:

While I'm aware that Arch is a user centric/DIY distro and everyone can
set their own `vm.max_map_count` value fairly easily, shipping an
increased value on our side would be a beneficial change to make in my
opinion as it would result in a smoother gaming experience out of the
box for our users without representing any downside/side effect (as far
as I'm aware).

Source (linked in the article): https://lists.archlinux.org/archives/list/[email protected]/thread/5GU7ZUFI25T2IRXIQ62YYERQKIPE3U6E/ [External Link]

Just because you can configure something doesn't mean you have to leave a crappy default value.

Given that many distros make this change, we can also expect it to become the kernel default in the future (special cases such as embedded will then be the ones who have to reconfigure it).

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Quoting: elmapulyou got another good point: why download all languages if i only gona use 1?
steam need an option to download those "free dlcs" while download/install the game.

A fun fact is that often, piracy repacks have theses options :grin: Sometimes piracy isn’t for money, but for disk space and bandwith (notably when it’s recompressed a lot more than the Steam version).

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Quoting: GuestSpeculating:

since they had the idea of using a browser engine to rebase their client upon, and since that engine, chromium, will not support anything lower than windows 10 starting from the upcoming release, hey've had to stop support for the same platforms too.

Well, the link [External Link] in the release note say precisely this.

Quoting: Steam SupportThis change is required as core features in Steam rely on an embedded version of Google Chrome, which no longer functions on older versions of Windows.

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Quoting: ssj17vegetaYes, the game is top notch and still totally worth the money. But they could and should've just said they wanted more money for their shareholders, and spared everyone the hypocrisy, because I highly doubt the devs will actually benefit from it.

Which shareholders? xD

The studio is independent, and the one who decided this price increase, is at worst the lead developer, at best the whole team agreed. Of course this increase will benefit them... (if it doesn't cause a significant drop in sales).

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Despite the price increase, this game is worth it.

If you don't want to pay, then don't pay: the game is DRM-free, so it's easy to play for free. When you have spent hundreds of hours on it (you will), then you can buy it to thank the devs. That's what I did.

Besides the purchase is their only source of income, the existing players don't make any more money. It remains to be seen if the DLC will bring free updates in parallel (like Euro Truck Simulator 2 does, which compensates for its low price and big sales by regularly selling new DLCs (almost one DLC at €20 per year) to existing players).

And then, other games have seen their price increase over time, for example Minecraft, which is still very popular. On the other hand for Minecraft, all updates are free and there is no DLC, but for it too, the cost is only covered by new players, not the existing ones.

So personally, I would say that at worst, we should wait to see what they will bring that would justify their expenses (and therefore this way of covering them). Just the Switch release and the adaptation to controllers is a proof that they don't pay themselves to do nothing, at least… In any case I still recommend the game (even if it means giving away copies to those who are reluctant to pay for it at first…).

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