Quoting: SystemShockDid you always delete the wineprefix when you change from normal Proton to Proton-GE or the other way round?

Hooh - that question alone is enough for me to steer clear of GE. I want the "out of the box" experience, add a startup parameterer at worst, I do not want to start fiddling with Wine stuff again. Oh no, no thanks. :grin:

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Quoting: Purple Library GuyI mean, I have a bias towards buying games that are native over using Proton, but it's fairly mild.

Oh by all means - me too! I would even say I have a strong bias, when there at all is an option. Like, the latest Metro. I waited until the Linux version was there and quite frankly, without that version I'd quite likely not purchase it at all. I have too much in the backlog as it is and those kind of shooters are not that high on my preference list. But since there IS a Linux version of such a game, I bought it. As I have with others too, for the mere reason there is a Linux build of it.

But of the games I actually do play, and invest hundreds of hours in? They are all, sadly without a single exception, run via Proton.

Quoting: Purple Library GuyThing is that I happen to be mostly into strategy games or games like Shadowrun with turn-based combat, and Linux is pretty well supplied with that kind of stuff. If your taste is AAA stuff, then yeah, I expect Linux native seems like much more of a wasteland.

100%. If you're into the genres where Linux is well covered, the reality is entirely different. The indie scene is totally on the ball here. And if smaller games, retro gaming and turnbased is your thing then absolutely - then the reality is almost the exact opposite - you don't need the major/big/AAA (call it what you like :D ) developers at all.

Quoting: tuubiIn any case, Beamboom is putting words in Termy's mouth, and that's just not nice.

I was pointing out the practical consequences, and I do not agree it was uncalled for. A ridiculous majority of game developers do not support Linux. If we don't count the small indies, we're left with more or less none. That's just the reality.
And to repeat myself, but to not buy their games won't change a single thing. It will only affect yourself, severely restrict your own options. I don't think it's rude to point that out.

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Quoting: TermyAnother reason to put your money where your mouth is and support Linux-supporting devs instead of devs that don't care. (Personally, official support for proton is fine too)

So you're suggesting we should stop buying games at all, then? As if that would help anything...!

That's obviously not what they're suggesting.

It's not what they intended to suggest, but is it not really, in practise? When you think about it?

The list of major developers supporting Linux today is... Practically non-existing. There's *no* games that I want to play being released the last year that's pushed by a Linux supporting developer. And I'm not here to play Tux Cart and tiny retro indies for the coming years.

So yes - in *reality* that's the suggestion. And my point is of course that this suggestion is meaningless. If we don't purchase the games from devs that don't care, they won't even notice. The *only* consequence is that we won't be experiencing those games.

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Quoting: TermyAnother reason to put your money where your mouth is and support Linux-supporting devs instead of devs that don't care. (Personally, official support for proton is fine too)

So you're suggesting we should stop buying games at all, then? As if that would help anything...!

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I think I experienced a degrade in performance on Steampunk 2077 with the latest (big) update. There's some random stutter now that didn't use to be there. Not too much mind you, but still annoying when it used to be as smooth as it was.

I hope this (whatever it is) is handled in some update sooner than later.

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Wow I was not aware of that "hidden department"! I wonder what else that slot is intended for?!

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Quoting: wvstolzingYeah me too; I suppose it's bad rap from the early days

It must be answer. And, it was a bit wonky, it's true, but that's like ages ago!

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Quoting: wvstolzingIt does; my point is that the latency is tolerable over ssh.

Ah, gotcha! Then we're essentially saying the same here, I thought you were arguing against PA here 😊👍

I've never really understood the anti PA vibe, thinking it must rather be of historical rather than current reasons.

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Quoting: wvstolzingSure, I meant latency over the network, even through ssh.

SSH across the LAN? Since SSH is encrypted traffic, I would assume that would only add to the latency?

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Quoting: LeopardWhy those games ported to Stadia and why they don't see daylight for Linux desktop?

Thanks a lot, Leopard!
Amazing. That gotta cost'em a fortune!

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