Quoting: BeamboomIt begs the question... Why? What's in it for them? And that goes for all of them. What's the motivation behind it?
There's a LOT of open source projects out there that are used by large corporations. Many of whom also have large commercial competitors.

It's not too say I imagine this is the only oss that's supported out there, that's far from the truth, but Why do blender enjoy this massive, very wide support?

I do suppose that partially because Blender itself bas a strategy from the beginning to get money from different organisation. There are many OSS software where there is not clear path for subventions nor company patron.

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Quoting: Purple Library GuyMicrosoft has certainly always in the past been as petty as this. But that wouldn't IMO be a huge issue. It would take some time to get people to start using their fancy new DX13. It took years before there were noticeable amounts of games running DX12, and everyone agreed that DX12 was a thing that had a good reason to exist, for similar reasons to why Vulkan needed to exist. With the momentum Proton, DXVK etc. have currently (and the strength of Valve's motivation), they could probably get a DX13-->Vulkan thingie going before there was even any appreciable uptake. Particularly because developers would probably not be all that receptive to a DX13 basically just created to nobble the competition, and because if it was a rush job done for that reason it would probably suck.
They might get quicker uptake if it was really just DX12 version 1.2 with a few little jingle bells stuck to it . . . but then it would be really easy for Proton to adjust to it.

In general, I think it's at least as difficult for Microsoft to move the target, as it is for Valve to adjust their aim.

I don't think the new MS strategy has much interest in doing so now. MS has struggle to keep compatibility which have consequence on they capacity to be innovative, don't think they want to add to much weird stuff to make their work harder for later. And if their want to do now, it's too late, Wine already has compatibility with most older titles, which is the important thing. New software may need a new API but today, it's more and more easy to support multiple architecture/api/OS/etc… on software dues to relying on framework and engine that does most of the compatibility work.

Quoting: The_AquabatI think that about 30% of people are die hard Windows users, likewise as Apple fanboys... they simply can't concieve there life without Windows. Millions will still install Windows on the Steam Deck, and there's nothing you can do about it.
But if, let's say, 50% of steam deck userbase remain on Linux, then it's mayor victory for Linux.

In these 30%, how many have an android or iphone ? How many use nintendo, microsoft or sony gaming console ? How many are geek enough to tried raspberry pi (windows exist now for raspberry pi, but it does not really make much sense for a normal raspberry user) ?
In many, many devices, Windows is not installed by default and it's not possible to install it. As the steam deck will run the same game as a Windows and claim to be a PC, it's right there will be some people to try it, but if the software is convenient enough and the gaming experience efficient, i don't see much interest at switching the software. We have to keep in mind, that's it's not intended to replace a desktop or laptop, so, no much reason to have the same ui experience has your standard computer.

Windows will:

• not being optimised for it.
• may not have some driver (it's a specific GPU, are we sure controller will work out of the box ?)
• may be complicated to boot. We are not sure what will be the uefi. We can expect Valve will bring us an "open machine" but it's not sure.

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Quoting: inkheyDont think it's a bad news for now. As Blender may be the professional 3D tool, lot of companies want to be part of it. The fundation need to be careful to not lost independance from those donations. I dont really like the mozilla business model...

Mozilla is just kept on life support by Google money so that Google can say "I'm not a monopoly" as far as browsers go.

That the point i dont want Blender to be too much addict of company donations that are not reliable. But if i remember the Blender story, they have already face money issues. Blender doesn't need all this money as they were able for years to work without (using cinema fund if i remember well) while still maintaining employee.

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Dont think it's a bad news for now. As Blender may be the professional 3D tool, lot of companies want to be part of it. The fundation need to be careful to not lost independance from those donations. I dont really like the mozilla business model...

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I'm a bit impressed by people who have enough time to power user linux distro like archlinux.

Quoting: Avehicle7887Waiting for Debian 11 this year, I use this distro as my main OS as it's easy to create an offline repo and it's rock solid (got a bunch of offline systems all over the house so its handy).

My current good old Debian 9 base is showing its' age. Many programs work fine and I even have a bleeding edge kernel, Mesa and Wine however there are a few odd cases where a software refuses to compile from source.

I'll probably try an Arch based setup on my laptop.

Debian user too, but i'm on the "almost-rolling" side. I do use stable (buster) almost everywhere : laptop, server except on my main desktop where i have decided i can lose a bit of time on upkeep with a debian sid (unstable). Despite unstable is said unstable… it is very stable from my point of view, it's not really a rolling but it's not as "outdated" :grin: as stable, for me it's look like a good balance: just need to be a bit more careful during update.
What i do really like in debian sid, is that i don't have this kind of big update which change too much things in the system and cause potential lots of issues at the same time, on debian sid, it's look to me that the system don't change much after each update, it's less stressful.

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Quoting: CatKiller

What do you think to all these companies announcing their support on Blender over the last year or two? Pretty amazing to see so many companies seemingly just wake up to how important open source is.

I'd like to see other projects being the target of that mutually-beneficial PR boost as well. Yes, content creation is a fundamental aspect of lots of industries, so it's appropriate that Blender get funding from the people that benefit from it, but they aren't the only one. I expect Gimp or Godot could do with a shot in the arm, too, as well as infrastructure things like OpenSSL.

Note that the same thing can not happened in Gimp now, the fact that many company contribute to Blender this way is because:
1. Blender is good enough to catch the attention of theses company.
2. The Blender foundation itself has promoted these last year a mechanism which promote financial participation from external company.

It's important to not forgot the second point, because Gimp organization is very very far from Blender:
- Gimp doesn't paid developer. If gimp developer are paid they are paid by other company.
- Gimp doesn't want to paid developer. All money given to Gimp go only for meeting and conference.
- I really don't think Gimp will accept any money from a big organization.

It's also important to notice that whereas Blender is a big project with many paid developer from the beginning, Gimp has very few developer.

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I do think:
- Performance difference between AMD and Nvidia is most of the time not relevant unless you go to high end graphic card, and if you do so, you have probably a good reason do to this, and you probably don't expect perfect support on Gnu/Linux.
- If you only do gaming with an Mid end GPU, Go for a previous generation AMD GPU those are most of the time the best supported graphic card, linux driver take time to be available, don't expect day one support on Gnu/Linux.
- AMD opensource GPU driver are great on linux but they do lack some features (opencl support out of the box is poor and of course no CUDA).

I personally go from Nvidia to AMD, i do buy my last 2 graphic card mostly to have a better driver support. I also wanted to ditch the nvidia proprietary driver, which is a pain to maintain in some distro.
The time i do use Nvidia graphic card was not great for gaming on linux, so i don't have much information about really playing on it, but my experience was not really great for a simple usage. I do have some graphic issues with it
The AMD old driver was amazing to me as i can play game like tropico 5 on it, it's really impressive for someone like me that have more or less but game aside because i don't really want to maintain dualboot.
The AMDGPU is another step better. I do tested both RX560 and RX580 on it and it work really really well. I don't push the game to the limit and i don't really care about fps (just want to be able to play normally with normal setting).
So i do expect the nvidia driver has improved from the time i used it, but it's seems to me that part of the success the amdgpu driver is that it don't care about the past and just do the thing in a more linux-friendly way.

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