Looking forward to be able to add this to any game even using Emulators to push games upto 240 FPS.

Now i wonder if Ai can actually become useful here with the inclusion of Ai processing in AMD & Intel chips. Perhaps they can work out where the HUD and other Static elements are in any game you apply it too, to reduce shimmering / ghosting ?

Even if it's just a silly experiment i want to be able to use it via a steam launch command on any game i want. It might end up really great on some titles.

*edit forgot to add. What i DON'T want to happen is for Devs to use this technology as an excuse to reduce optimization on their already un-optimized titles to sh*t out more junky AAA cash grab games.

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Quoting: SamsaiChanging things so that the global themes cannot do this kind of damage would probably demand pretty drastic changes to the theming and widget systems on KDE. It's worth noting too that installing GNOME Extensions is similarly dangerous in that extensions also have access to the user files and whatnot.

It might be possible to sandbox these things, but that will inevitably lead to these systems becoming less flexible and that will result in complaints about KDE and GNOME restricting user freedom or whatever. Maybe that'll still be worth it for themes but for widgets that'll get pretty tricky.

I guess what they can do fairly easily is more clearly communicate that a theme can run arbitrary code and you shouldn't trust just any theme, widget or extension out there. And then users also needing to obey the warning.

Thankfully unlike Gnome desktop, KDE Plasma 5 and now 6 are so complete out of the box with regards to desktop functionality ( i.e they operate like a traditional desktop ) that adding a glut of plugins is not required. I have gnome running too on another machine and i need around at least 10 extensions to get it to where i want it ! and they break on every release without fail. I know there are many gnome users with more than that.

On plasma i have two right now, an 'update notifier' (only because so far the arch update notifier on arch doesn't seem to work with plasma 6 but im sure that will be rectified soon) and the fuzzy clock thing for the desktop because .. i like it.

So id say if your wanting that stability (not security as there is like a million other vectors like flatpak for instance ) but a functioning desktop then you can get by with KDE plasma much easier without adding anything.

Checking your pc info reveals you are a gnome user and as such there is a chance that your in the 'i don't need any extensions' catagory :grin: but from what i have seen lots of gnome users do.

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No AMD ? what is it about Manjaro that keeps screwing up :dizzy:

at least system76 have their finger on the pulse.

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Quoting: PenglingAs an aside, I have to compliment your amazing eyesight - please be sure to look after your eyes well. :smile: A lifetime of handhelds and laptops mean that my own are sharp only at the typical viewing-distances for those; Long-distance vision is a bygone dream, but at least I like my glasses, haha! :tongue:

you underestimate how close i sit to my screen

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Quoting: jrtAlready tried it at FOSDEM.
The device feels a lot heavier than the steam deck and the triggers are really bad.
Trackpads are nice to see. Sadly they are solid and don't have haptic feedback, so they feels way worse than the Steam Deck ones.

Positive note: they said they are going to ship an image based immutable system out of the box similar to the deck, but also offer a more classic variant to flash for users.

was that a prototype / early model ? maybe they can improve those aspects. its going to be hard for any device to match the steam deck valve really did their homework. By steam deck 2.0 the others are going to really struggle to keep up with the level of refinement valve are bringing. the best they can hope for is to copy as much as possible and carve their own niche within that space.

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Quoting: The_Real_BittermanI have mixed feelings about this. Considering there are only two perceptions of Manjaro: Great as f*ck and Broken as f*ck it will be interesting to see how it will turn out.

Also I feel like SteamOS is already a bit flunky from time to time I see a lot of potential of things to go wrong.

Don't get me wrong, SteamOS is perfectly fine for what it is intended to be used for as a handheld, but there are quite a few nuances and things randomly being annoying.

Like it sometimes does a full restet when going from Desktop back to gaming mode. You hear the sound of the boot video, then it stops and it starts to verify the installation.

Or Steam Link and the Steam Client crashing gamescope at least once when connecting for remote play.

Randomly not picking up external displays unless you do a full shutdown.

With some HDMI to Display port cables it's usable to read the EDIF of some devices.

And so many more little things randomly bugging out.

Considering it's done by Valve and they have all this little issues while they usually do exceptionally well software (unless you run Steam on Wayland + nvidia). What might Manjaro pull off with.

Does Manjaro have the man power to maintain such a system software wise?

With ChimeraOS getting such positive reception and marketing and Manjaro typically not, im wondering if manjaro was the best choice being that it is what it is. In the end if we can put our own linux distro on then for us typical linux enthusiasts its not a problem.

im waiting for System76 to enter the ring with their Handheld next with Cosmic desktop :woot:

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Quoting: Pengling

Quoting: LoftyI can't agree with that. people do notice the 800p resolution on the steam deck vs 1080p on the ROG for instance.

I didn't say there was no difference, though - I said there's barely any difference at that size, which is a simple fact. :wink: It's like how there's barely any difference between Coke and Pepsi - there is one, but it's really not a big deal.

Besides, people tell themselves they can see big differences in many things - that's why The Emperor's New Clothes [External Link] exists. :tongue:

i mean, its not a fact. it's your opinion. but if you have a study you can link which shows where people cannot tell the difference then i will bow to your superior evidence.

i can tell the difference on a smart phone between a 7" 720p smart phone and a 1200p smart phone, its a nice sizeable difference for reading text. last time i checked, we still read text in games, although i admit the steam deck might not be used for e-book reading :grin:

in fact i can link a dozen videos where people are showing the difference and claiming the difference in the detail of the screen of a ROG Ally vs a Steam deck.

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Quoting: Pyretic

Quoting: Loftybut we have global FSR2.0 now, which works really well especially on a smaller screen with a higher resolution, where as FSR on an already low 800p screen (mixed with the usual terrible TAA implementation on many modern games used for anti-aliasing) doesn't look crisp at all.

Why would a smaller screen have worse FSR? Technically speaking, a smaller screen should make it harder to see the imperfections.

Its' not the 'smaller screen' in the steam decks case, it's that you are already only at 800p and FSR is taking games down to resolutions like 600p and below which is reaching the point of not being able to recover enough detail on upscaling. Yet at 1200p with a much higher physical resolution you have the benefit of being able to use 1152p/900p FSR plus the additive factor of the higher PPi giving a 315 PPi vs only 115 PPi on the steam deck.

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Quoting: Pengling

Quoting: JuliusOdd screen resolution choice. Probably not the best for overall performance.

People keep asking for it, and won't learn until they see for themselves that you'll barely see a difference in fidelity at that size, but will lose out in performance due to the higher resolution. :tongue:

I can't agree with that. people do notice the 800p resolution on the steam deck vs 1080p on the ROG for instance. Not only that but we have global FSR2.0 now, which works really well especially on a smaller screen with a higher resolution, where as FSR on an already low 800p screen (mixed with the usual terrible TAA implementation on many modern games used for anti-aliasing) doesn't look crisp at all.

1200p is the perfect sweet spot and of course it's 16:10 which is the only aspect ratio of choice :P

id of liked to see it being 7.5" to match the oled of the steamdeck or even an 8" screen but we can't have everything.

looking forward to this.

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Quoting: scaineI'll bet there are mechanics out there who walk past my car while I'm sitting at a set of lights and can critic all sorts of stuff I do with it - poor tire wear, dirty interior, crass stickers, slipping fan belt, revving too high whatever. I don't care. I'm not a car person. I don't give a single shit about the state of my car. But I care deeply about the tech I use.

i mean, i get the analogy. But people who neglect the maintenance of their car when it comes to lights (in winter) indicators / brakes & especially tires are just about as bad as drink drivers and rightfully are usually fined or sometimes even jailed.

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