Quoting: Liam DaweInstead of launching through Proton it would run it through a compatible native game engine.

To rephrase it, it takes the game data from the Windows version, which is (supposed to be) OS agnostic, and throws it at the native version of the game engine.

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Quoting: BielFPsImagine this hypothetical case:
-A kid likes to play PUBG (example) and see on the internet that there's this "new console" that can run steam games (driven only by marketing) and asks their parents to buy it intending to just play PUBG on it. The parents them spent money buying this console, only to discover that "the console isn't working" for some reason (remember both the kid and the parents doesn't have the technical knowledge in this case). Them the parents demands refund because because of it claiming that the "video game isn't working properly". In this case, while we (power users or above) know that technically in this case are the parents fault for not checking this information before, and maybe resulting in denial of the refund.

Yes.

Quoting: BielFPsThis could open a case for a possible lawsuit against Valve / the store that sold it for them claiming that this was false advertised.

No.

What hasn't been promised doesn't have to work.

It might disappoint some people, totally, but there's no ground for a reasonable law suit.

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Quoting: BielFPsTry to imagine the developer / publisher side situation: You're selling your game in a store which bites 30% of each sale you do, and suddenly your game is now advertised with the mark of shame in the store because of the lack of support for a OS that you didn't intended to support (for whatever reason), and this can give the idea for some customers that there's "something broken" in your product (even if this does not affect you like windows players), because you can't expect every consumer on steam to know what that mark means.

They could make the display optional. Those who care (and should know what it means) can switch it on.
I don't think they need to, though.

Oh come on. They say clearly in the video that the "mark of shame" appears only if you open the store from the deck. And why shouldn't be that way? If you're playing on the deck it is supposed that you want to buy and play games there. Everything on Steam is contextual and configurable. I can even decide to display windows games if I want.

RockPaperShotgun has it. Of course you can check from PC, everything else would be plain stupid. You want to know what runs before buying the Deck, not only afterwards.

Quoting: RockPaperShotgunWill the compatibility badges be visible when viewing games on a PC, or in the Steam mobile app? It would be good to see if a game works well on the Steam Deck even if you’re primarily playing on a desktop or laptop.

Quoting: ValveWe plan to make the Steam Deck compatibility badge visible on PC for players who own a Steam Deck, and compatibility badges will also be discoverable via searching and tag browsing for everyone using the desktop version of Steam or the Steam web site. In addition, the team is currently working on a new feature, to be released before Steam Deck's launch, that will let players check the compatibility category of each of the games in their own library.

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Quoting: GuestSo, this is essentially a Proton whitelist 2.0. The one that Valve have abandoned after a couple of Proton releases.

I do hope that native Linux games will get their check and hopefully their badge early.

Not sure about this one... Have you tried running Shadow of Mordor native on anything else than Ubuntu? The "Unsupported OS" pop-up window is pretty anoying. Not sure it qualifies for the "Supported" badge.

Played through it on Debian, yes. I'm not saying they'll all get their badge "for free". They'd need to get rid of the message at least for SteamOS.

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Quoting: BielFPs

Quoting: EikeThey could make the display optional. Those who care (and should know what it means) can switch it on.
I don't think they need to, though.

Mostly the same situation:

-Opt-in: The majority of users will never activate it, "defeating" the purpose of putting it in the first place.

It defeats the problem you're seeing in not publishing the results:

risk people asking for refund (deck) after discover that "games are not working in this console".

Want to know what runs before buying the Deck? Activate the option, have a look.

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Quoting: BielFPsTry to imagine the developer / publisher side situation: You're selling your game in a store which bites 30% of each sale you do, and suddenly your game is now advertised with the mark of shame in the store because of the lack of support for a OS that you didn't intended to support (for whatever reason), and this can give the idea for some customers that there's "something broken" in your product (even if this does not affect you like windows players), because you can't expect every consumer on steam to know what that mark means.

They could make the display optional. Those who care (and should know what it means) can switch it on.
I don't think they need to, though.

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Quoting: ArehandoroFor me, the key point is here:

"System Support - If running through Proton, the game and all its middleware should be supported by Proton. This includes anti-cheat support."

Emphasis is mine.

Does that mean a game can be verified for Windows on Steam Deck but not Linux/Proton? If that's the case, I don't see that going down too well...

No, it means they still can be Linux native.

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Quoting: GuestSo, this is essentially a Proton whitelist 2.0. The one that Valve have abandoned after a couple of Proton releases.

I do hope that native Linux games will get their check and hopefully their badge early.

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Quoting: BielFPsEven so, there are literally thousands of games on steam, and manually reviewing them will take a lot of time. Remember that this situation is different from something unofficial like Protondb, because this seal is Valve officially stating how well the game runs on deck so they can't mess up with it.

You're putting it mildly. Over 10000 games have been added to Steam in 2020 alone!

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Quoting: Phlebiac

Quoting: elmapulone nice thing to have would be: auto detect what compatibility tool may work with an game.
eg: dosbox, luxtorpeda, proton, retro arch...

I don't know how it could be implemented, but... "yes please"

There might also be technical solutions by looking into the game binaries, but Valve could just gather the data which game is run under which tool for how long and default to the one used the longest in sum.

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