Quoting: F.Ultra

Quoting: Eike

Quoting: F.UltraThis is how things are done and decided in the real world all the time, the only difference now is that the immature Linux fanbase for some reason decided to run around in circles screaming that the world was ending.

You mean like Microsoft gave up 32 bit support? And enforced UWP only? Oops...

So tell me when Canonical gave up 32-bit support and enforced UWP only. Oh that it right this very thread exists only because Canonical decided to not give up 32-bit support.

What ever this now have to do with Microsoft?!

We are talking about Ubuntu reverting their decision to not properly supporting 32 bit software anymore. You've said others were doing such stuff all the time. That's where Microsoft comes to mind quite naturally. Giving up 32 bits and enforcing UWP are two examples of stuff they couldn't do due to software that must be supported.

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Quoting: F.UltraThis is how things are done and decided in the real world all the time, the only difference now is that the immature Linux fanbase for some reason decided to run around in circles screaming that the world was ending.

You mean like Microsoft gave up 32 bit support? And enforced UWP only? Oops...

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Quoting: F.UltraThey get the base source code of each package from Debian, then they have to build the IA-32 version themselves

If only someone would invent automatic building after source changes...

Quoting: F.Ultraand provide support themselves.

A 64 bit WINE not being able to install most Windows applications and Steam not running would have created "some" support needs as well...

Quoting: F.UltraConsidering the amount of packages in the repo it will take quite some time to build the packages for IA-32 and that is time taken from building for other archs and so on.

How many packages are we talking about (at the moment)?

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Quoting: TobiSGDMany VST-plugins for use with DAWs are only usable running on Wine.

Oops! I thought from the name it would be an IDE (like Visual Studio). Thanks!

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@Liam I wonder if the last days brought you an all-time high in traffic. :-D

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Surprise, surprise! ;-)

It's all fine that they want to reach another solution some day. Just not this day.

BTW, what would have been the problem with Ubuntu Studio?

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Quoting: RedfaceNow they actually change their plans: https://ubuntu.com/blog/statement-on-32-bit-i386-packages-for-ubuntu-19-10-and-20-04-lts [External Link]

"We'll stop shooting ourselves in the foot!" (Too bad there's a hole already.)

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Quoting: EikeI guess it depends on the value of the old stuff (high for many of us)

Uhm... How does 2/3rds or more of the Steam catalog sound to you as value?

Uhm... You did quote it...? (Quote shortened by me.)

Or do you mean to me personally? I'm torn... I tend to play games until I have finished/enough/given up and never revisit them. OTOH, I do want to be able to play them again. OTOH again, I guess I won't for all those 5 1/4 " discs either... But, yes, I want to keep being able to play 32 bit games.

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Quoting: SatoruAgain same thing. Gamers aren't their customers. Therefore Wine users aren't either. People 'in the cloud' don't use Wine. So they don't care what happens to Wine.

WINE is useful for way more than games. TBH, I can hardly imagine their customers don't need it. Having a Linux infrastructure but being able to run that one Windows program the company needs, but the Fortran ;-) code is gone, does sound valuable to me.

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The Easy Anti Cheat team is continuing to work on Linux support. Native support is in a beta state and works for some games

That sounds good.

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