Quoting: BeamboomIn a world of limited resources, spending a lot of those resources on backward compatibility can be argued is a energy wasted that could be spent a lot better.

I guess it depends on the value of the old stuff (high for many of us) and the prices for the different solutions to keep the value. The price for Ubuntu to keeping these libs seems not high for me, especially considering Debian still maintains them. The price of hundreds of thousands of people setting up VM (or the like) solutions seems a bit higher. Yes, we do need some other solution some day. I just don't think it's this day yet.

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Quoting: SatoruThey didn't miss it

They dont care

Gamers are not their customers.

I get that (though I'm not sure it's clever to p**s off too many people). But what about WINE users...?

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Quoting: chancho_zombiecome on Debian?? haven't tried it recently but does it still use a ncurses installer?? sorry but it's not user friendly.

Which decade was this "not recently"?
Debian has a graphical installer for 12 years now...

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Will people be able to do install newer GPU drivers nevertheless, when the respective 32 bit libs are "frozen"?

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Why did they test games without 32 bit libs if they never intended to remove them?

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Quoting: GuestIs it really because of the decision to drop 32bit OS support? Nobody, literally nobody, especially not Valve's target audience, is still using a 32 bit OS unless they just don't know any better. I think it's more because they already have steamOS and ubuntu is falling out of fashion anyways.

You can't run all your 32 bit games without it.

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Quoting: TheSyldatI mean will those things changing really break much of anything in how those libraries are functionning ?

That's not a troll but a real honest question here . Them freezing up those libraires in their current state would really break shit ?

I had the impression that the x86 libs must match the amd64 ones, so freezing the former would freeze the later - and thus your graphics driver. But I'm not sure either.

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Lying at the beach far away from any PC. :-)

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Quoting: einherjarI did that in the Discussions under the Link Liam provided.
I did it in a polite way (I even thanked them for the good work in the past).
An Admin deleted my post and set my Account on hold. --> That's how they care for the opinions of their users.

Wow.

Are they so eager to f**k up?!?

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Quoting: ScooptaNo I don't, I wish there was a way...maybe there is but I don't know it.

I wonder if SteamDB might have this available somehow. Don't know.

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