Quoting: Mountain ManGlad for people who enjoy this franchise, but I found the first game to be such an on-the-rails slog that I won't be buying this.

I had the feeling you could always go for some hunting or exploring.
I just didn't try as the story always had something urgent to do.
But who would want to blame an exciting story for not having time for some extended fishing? ;)

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They didn't need to ask if people want this one, unlike with Forumula 1, so I guess the first port was a success!

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<3

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Quoting: GuestI first read like this: and it seems he's from the same universe as me. I thought:An alien! Oh no! It's the beginning of the end!this is an attack from Mars. Green little men are coming!^_^

I sure have to do some gaming now... :-D

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Quoting: Shmerl

Quoting: EikeIf you want fully native Linux games (in your undestanding of "native" ), you shouldn't use WINE either.

I never said I'm against wrappers. I was only commenting on the inconsistent claim, that Feral are encouraging native ports and Wine discourages them.

Playing Windows games on WINE is as opposite to native as playing on Linux can get...

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Quoting: ShmerlOne is playing a game sold for Windows, and other is not playing the game that Feral didn't port. That's the options. So for me the first is clearly better, since the second would be 100% of games that are available in DRM-free stores.

Erm, did I understand that right that you're buying DRM'ed games for Windows (to play them under WINE), but not for Linux?

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Quoting: ShmerlI personally will be more happy to have native games naturally. But playing them through Wine is better for me than "playing" through Feral's wrapper that I can't even access in my store at all (which means not playing at all).

I disagree, because one is paying for a game sold for Windows (and is strenghtening Windows market) and the other is paying for a game sold for Linux.

Quoting: ShmerlBesides, Feral wrappers don't encourage native releases unlike some claim above. Actual support for Linux in game engines does, that's what we get from Unreal, Unity and the like who actually make native option available.

We already had this discussion and I see no value in repeating it: Feral's games are compiled as native Linux binaries. They are not fully native in a broader sense of being targeted specifically at the native interfaces of Linux. (Obiously, using WINE is even less so.)

If you want fully native Linux games (in your undestanding of "native" ), you shouldn't use WINE either.

I personally am happy with good games targeted at and compiled for Linux with good support. Of course, the optimal case would be developers having Linux in mind from the beginning.

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Quoting: ShmerlIf there is a distinct value, then competition isn't a problem, right? And if you worry that they'll be obsoleted by Wine, then Wine can provide that value all the same. So from Linux gaming perspective why is it bad? Competition usually moves things forward, and its lack causes stagnation.

Thought from the other end, would you be happy being able to play all Windows games via WINE (and probably not getting any support by companies) and having no more games compiled to target Linux?

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Quoting: jensWhile I'm on the subject with jaycee I do fully agree with your comments regarding respects and communication. Thanks a lot for keeping it civilized!

I'm all fine with civilized disagreement.
I can see why many (probably most) Linux gamers won't have the same opinion as me,
and I can of course see why jaycee is frustrated about such opinions about VP's ports.

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Quoting: Kels

Quoting: razing32Hmm. Can't really bring myself to kill humans. But maybe I'll give it a go.
The game that is , not killing humans.

C'mon, you know you wanna KILL ALL HU-MANS.

All the cool kids are doin' it.

... and if you don't (and are not a cool kid):
They're just coloured triangles. :)

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