Quoting: TheSHEEEPWrong. Calling people for what they are behaving like is simply the truth and I will continue to do so.

You can expect everybody here to be a human. So calling somebody a sheep is not the truth.

Quoting: TheSHEEEPLet's not get to the kindergarden level of "let's all say nice things only", please. That doesn't lead anywhere useful.

Insulting people is the opposite of kindergarten? Well then...

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Quoting: TheSHEEEPThere's a small increase in immersion due to the hardware, but due to the player just looking at the field, that is very, very limited.

I don't know why it didn't work for you. But you must have noticed that it's hugely different for many people. In fact I cannot remember a single one, in real life, online or journalist not having experienced a huge increase in immersion. For me personally, it was like having stepped into the monitor after more than three decades of sitting in front of it. That's what VR is all about.

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Quoting: wvstolzingOne deterrent might be that they're not sure how many *new Linux sales* they'll achieve, if they were to release a port. Dual-booters who have already bought Skyrim in antedeluvian ages, or recently on a sale, will get the port for free -- I'm sure that notion is revolting to them.

And this is why I want GNU/Linux-only purchases. It's not like I care about Windows or MAC anyway.

Yes, but... I don't dual boot for over 4 1/2 years now, but I still already own Skyrim. It's too old to port.

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I can't see it clearly on the phone, but... I am Bread? ;-)

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Quoting: ageresSo, how many years old must be games to be considered old enough for wrapping?

I calculated exacty 3.14 years.

Seriously, though: Why you're asking?

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Quoting: ageresAFAIK, source code for Saints Row 1&2 was lost, so VP port is the best what we could have on Linux for SR. It's either this, or nothing. Would nothing be better?

My humble opinion is that binary wrapping is fine for old games, where the source might be lost and porting would probably not be worth the work anyway, but - for me - not for current games.

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Quoting: ShmerlTo make it native, it should be designed with native API as a target. And not retrofitted post factum by wrapping foreign API into native one (no matter on what level). That's about it. And as above, I have no problem with non native ports.

You seem to have a different notion of what "native" binary means in this case.
I'm using "native" binary as "every part of it is compiled for the target system", Linux in this case.
This is what Feral does and VP doesn't do.
VP makes Windows binaries run on Linux.
(And this adds complexity to an already complex topic.)
If that difference doesn't matter for you, it's fine, but that doesn't stop it from being a difference.

Of course, having it so native that everything in it is specifically targeted at the Linux environment would be even better.

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Quoting: ShmerlBinary or source, it's still wrapping. One isn't much better than another.

To me as a software developer as well as to me as a Linux user, that's a huge difference. Wrapping binaries on a different OS would be the very last resort if totally necessary. And it's not necessary for me in case of gaming. While wrappers for source is a common design pattern [External Link].

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Quoting: ScooptaAlthough Feral does seem to put quite a bit of work into their ports I would like more info on exactly how much wrapping vs porting they're doing.

VP and WINE are doing binary wrapping, while Feral is doing source wrapping. The first runs Windows binaries in Linux, the second creates pure ("native" ) Linux binaries. Do we need way more information?

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Quoting: lucifertdarkHere's a Steam gift link for Owlboy...

Thank you very much! ^_^

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