Quoting: F.UltraOnly rearranging your build environment every 4 years instead of every 2 years isn't really how I would defined bit rot ;).

To be honest, the examples I was thinking of were quite longer than 2 or 4 years. But I'd still prefer to be closer to the wave. Like changing every two years to the LTS version that's a year old at that time.

Quoting: F.UltraHeck all the QA some of our customers have to perform on each release before they certify it for production takes almost those 4 years.

That sounds strange. I don't want to disclose more (not that it is very secret stuff, I just want to keep it private), but our customers would be counted as critical infrastructure and they are careful and... reluctant to change, but as far as I know, even they are a bit faster than that.

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Fixed uninitialized memory in right eye.

A problem I got every morning... :grin:

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Quoting: F.Ultra

Quoting: Eike

Quoting: F.UltraBecause it's much easier to only change your build environment every 4 years instead of every 2 years.

Not sure about that. You shouldn't sink too deep in the mud...

I am a developer of enterprise software so yes this is exactly how at least that part of the industry works and thinks.

Yeah. I'm developer of industry software too, and we're doing our best to not do such things anymore. Bits do rot.

Quoting: F.UltraNot sure what mud you talk about, I have build environments that work for CentOS 4 still due to customer demand :)

For old software, we're keeping old environments around as well.

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What's that image in the news feed, a swine railgun?!? :D

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Quoting: Eike

Quoting: elmapuli bet they did that because wine/dosbox already can run 100% of dos 4.0 games/softwares, so it would be useless to keep this codebase proprietary anyway and by open sourcing it they create an good image for thenselves.

And if DOSBox wouldn't run the games? They'd sell MSDOS 4.0?

if dosbox cant run, probably the game was made for MSDOS 5.0, 6.0 or something like that.

that is exactly what im saying, if the full scope of an tech is already supported by an open source alternative, there is no reason to keep the secret an secret anymore.

If it wouldn't be supported by an open source alternative, there would be no reason to keep the secret a secret anymore either. It's not like they would make money from MSDOS 4.0 anyway.

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Quoting: F.UltraBecause it's much easier to only change your build environment every 4 years instead of every 2 years.

Not sure about that. You shouldn't sink too deep in the mud...

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Quoting: elmapuli bet they did that because wine/dosbox already can run 100% of dos 4.0 games/softwares, so it would be useless to keep this codebase proprietary anyway and by open sourcing it they create an good image for thenselves.

And if DOSBox wouldn't run the games? They'd sell MSDOS 4.0?

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The biggest surprise to me is that they actually still found the code.

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Quoting: WayneJetSkiI am surprised devs would not be targeting 22.04 instead of 20.04. It is already 2 years old and I would imagine most users have upgraded to 22.04 by this point.

It's just been released, so most users definitely haven't upgraded.

They were talking about the two and the four years old release...

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Quoting: mindedie

Quoting: Purple Library GuyOne thing to keep in mind is, I bet a lot of those characters are not just copyrighted, but trademarked. And the thing about trademarks is, if you don't maintain them by stopping people from using them, you can lose them. This can push companies to behaviours even more annoying than they would instinctively do on their own.

Fan art and parodies, prise and criticism [insert TM here] not alowed... got it...

No you didn't. Did you even try?

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