Quoting: devnullCatering to Chinese users for inflated user numbers is not the 'wae'. They're like a pub crawl (no pun intended).

"Catering to Chinese users" is damn good business. You make it sound like they're doing it to spite us.

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I love the character animations. The trailer just oozes style. That said, I'll wait and see if the gameplay holds up before I commit.

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Quoting: tuubiAnd I see no reason to suspect that they're going out of business.

Then you must be very new to Crytek and their history of not paying their staff and having many leave, along with their terrible attempts at lawsuits. A successful company does not these things... I hope they pull their finger out and find a way to survive, but the CEO's seem to be 12 year olds.

A successful company treats their employees well and doesn't stoop to stupid lawsuits? If only that was true...

I'm not trying to cheer for them, just saying that it's pointless to speculate on their financial success. It's not even relevant.

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Quoting: TheRiddickBut yeah, DITCH OPENGL, MOVE TO VULKAN, OR GET OUT OF THE KITCHEN CRYTEK! I somehow doubt this company will be around next year.

A quick search tells me that they already have beta support for Vulkan (official docs [External Link]). Full support is on the roadmap [External Link] for version 5.6, to be released in the summer.

We shouldn't jump to conclusions. Sure, Crytek is not Epic, but there's room for more than one advanced game engine out there. And I see no reason to suspect that they're going out of business.

Their next game [External Link] is in Early Access by the way. Should get Vulkan but no indication of Linux support AFAIK.

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Quoting: Hugormwow it look a lot like Pyra/Pandora https://pyra-handheld.com [External Link] whis is linux

The Pyra has an ARM CPU. This one is x86_64. Makes a big difference for compatibility.

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Quoting: tuubi

Quoting: BeamboomBut... I thought this engine for all practical purposes was dead now? Are there new games released on it nowadays?

A few, apparently [External Link].

I've removed Homefront from the list, and Snow is an "upcoming video game", which leaves... none.

He wasn't asking about Linux games. Just games in general.

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Quoting: BeamboomCryengine will forever have a special place in my heart because of Crysis 2 - the coolest FPS I've played this decade. But... I thought this engine for all practical purposes was dead now? Are there new games released on it nowadays?

A few, apparently [External Link].

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While I won't belittle what Loki did and how they survived for a few years in a market that barely existed, I consider their effort one of the false starts I mentioned. They were publishing games on a platform that could not begin to support a viable gaming community, and no distribution or hardware vendor was interested in contributing in any meaningful sense. They were simply at least a decade too early.

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Quoting: BeamboomWe see the opposite of growth. That's the entire concern. Any growth would be taken as a victory. Just like miniscule increases in the Steam user stats.

That's exactly it. Stop thinking about this as a competition with victors and losers, measured by meaningless fluctuations in numbers and statistics, and you'll feel a damn sight better. If you bother to look at the big picture, you'll see nothing but progress.

Quoting: BeamboomAnd your ending of that post, THAT'S "hopes and dreams". There's zero guarantee we'll "get there eventually". There's plenty stories of failed attempts in the Linux world too, it's not all a success story on all fronts.

Yes, and there's usually a good reason for those failures, be it a market that isn't large enough yet, or maybe the technical infrastructure is still not ready. These attempts, failed or not, usually spark a bunch of interest and development that helps whoever tries next.

Most success stories take a few false starts. And you have to admit, Linux is definitely one big success story already. No single player matters in this long game.

Speaking of long games, Linux as a gaming platform hasn't had time to fail or succeed yet. To me it's already a success though. No hoping or dreaming necessary. I can buy and play awesome games on my Linux system, and if that isn't success, I don't know the meaning of the word anymore.

Quoting: BeamboomAnd AAA gaming on Linux is really nothing to take for granted.

I don't take it for granted. But I do see all obstacles developers and publishers have faced in the past slowly crumbling away, thanks to a whole bunch of companies and organisations working towards this rather recent goal of making Linux an awesome gaming platform.

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Quoting: BeamboomI don't consider myself to have a negative stance in this, but rather objective/analytical, with a negative conclusion. I see no signs of a buildup - quite the contrary.

There was a time where there was a lot of promise flying around in the air, from multiple directions. Typically we had at least rumours about some of the larger titles coming to Linux. Sure, lots of cancellations too - but at least there was movement.

So you compare your hopes and dreams against reality, and analytically come to a negative conclusion?

In case you and your hype-weary co-worriers haven't noticed, very few things happen quickly in the Linux world. The growth of gaming was never going to be an exception, especially as the infrastructure simply wasn't there and is still taking shape. I for one see no reason to throw in the towel just because big releases don't drop in a steadily tightening pace. It's those AAA games we would all like to see that have the biggest hurdles to clear, both technically and from the business (or at least business culture) perspective as well.

We'll get there eventually - wherever that is - and it will be glorious! Or at least a lot better than it used to be. I'm fine either way.

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