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Quoting: BeamboomLooked cool, but very odd movement in that you can only turn 90 degrees and advance like on a game board. Wonder what the reasoning is behind this odd design decision? To emulate a board game?

I would think it is more likely to emulate the old dungeon crawler formula.

Dungeon crawlers have already made a comeback, haven't they? I thought even you young whippersnappers would be familiar with Legend of Grimrock if not the rest.

But man, good old Dungeon Master, the Eye of the Beholder series, Lands of Lore, Captive, Bloodwych, the Might and Magic series, Ishar... Now that I think about it, it must have been an important genre before "real" 3D rpg games arrived on the scene.

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Quoting: EhvisFor favourite porter I voted for Knockout games because I found Aaron Melcher's name in the credits for Linux/Mac programming. I hadn't even heard that he was involved before then, so I decided to reward the work done completely out of the spotlight. Seems I was the only one.

In the credits of Tacoma I assume? Was he involved in any other ports last year?

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Quoting: Whitewolfe80Yeah but Carmack is not exactly Linux friendly since he has gone on record to say releasing quake 3 on linux was a giant waste of resources

Quoting: omer666So that's not what one would call "a giant waste of ressources" even for a troll like Carmack

I am becoming more and more convinced that Linux is a cult, where if you mention any flaws, you get attacked. Jeeze.

Says the man who attacks any negative comment against a developer or porter, deserved or not.

We have no way of policing the actions and words of everyone who chooses to use Linux, and we're often very publicly in disagreement, and those facts alone prove we're nothing like a cult.

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Yay! A contingency plan for when I get tired of (crashing my car in) Dirt Rally!

Quoting: KuduzkehpanWith some weapons attached to chasis this game will be something more than racing ^^

I'd argue it would be less than racing, but to each their own. ;)

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I really dislike the whole idea of the monthly bundle. For the same reason I wouldn't want to buy a sack of stuff for cheap in the grocery store, with the promise that there's at least one product in there I'd actually eat. I think the concept "muddles" the market, even more than normal bundles. Also there's my dislike of subscription services in general.

Civ VI is on my wishlist, but I'll pass on the monthly, again.

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Quoting: devnull... What? No seriously, what is your point? I never said they had to do anything, where are you getting this from? You replied originally

"Catering to Chinese users" is damn good business. You make it sound like they're doing it to spite us.

At no point did I say Valve or anyone else had to further restrict access. My point was the survey numbers are inflated.

What I replied to and quoted in my post was "Catering to Chinese users for inflated user numbers is not the 'wae'." That implies they're doing it specifically to inflate the numbers, doesn't it? I did not intend to address anything else you might have written or implied.

Quoting: devnull

Quoting: tuubiIf you see a double entendre there, you're reading it wrong. It's plain English. Developers/publishers can choose their markets. Valve isn't forcing them into the Chinese market, nor are they creating any of the problems you see stemming from this expansion.

I don't know what you're talking here dude. The entendre was your referring to developers as "not victims here". I don't think you understood what I said but are continuing to attack it anyway.

Attacking, really? I thought this was a discussion, not a fight. And I should know if I intend something as a double entendre or not. Your opinion doesn't really matter there.

Quoting: devnullOh I quite agree, it is you.

I guess I don't speak devnull then. Try being more coherent next time.

Quoting: devnull

Quoting: tuubiIn any case, believe or not, I'm not a big fan of Valve and their business model despite being a somewhat reluctant customer. I've said it many times before on these forums. But what got me into this conversation was your rant about them "catering to Chinese users". Whether they put enough effort towards Linux is another matter. Depends on what you expected from them.

There was no rant. Don't believe I even said they were against Linux specifically. You can of course continue to read into whatever you want to
fit your own narrative.

Now you're getting unnecessarily defensive. But I see this conversation isn't going anywhere, so let's just leave it.

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Quoting: throghWow, let's celebrate proprietary client-software with saving on someone else's computer! Better building ScummVM from source-code with "free as in freedom" and disabling support for network / cloud. :-)

Uhh. Okay. Buy it from GOG then, without Linux support? No optional cloud saves involved then. And I guess ScummVM is evil too, unless you build from source.

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Quoting: devnull

Quoting: tuubiValve just provides the marketplace. Of course they could do something like split player bases into regions in their own games, but imposing these limits on third party publishers and developers would smell a bit too much like politics.

OK... but I never said they had to (impose limits)? For the record they most certainly DO have to, legally. Some titles cannot be sold in all regions or have to be modified.

That's true, but I think you forgot your own point.

Quoting: devnull

Quoting: tuubiAlthough developers themselves are already able to limit their games to certain regions/markets. They are not victims here.

But again I never said they had to.

The are not victims here" -- Nice double entendre.

No, you didn't say they had to limit access, but if you're griping about China, what else could they do to appease you?

If you see a double entendre there, you're reading it wrong. It's plain English. Developers/publishers can choose their markets. Valve isn't forcing them into the Chinese market, nor are they creating any of the problems you see stemming from this expansion.

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Quoting: tuubiYour gripes about censorship and virtual currency farming are really off topic. I don't know how you got there from Valve's supposed hostility towards Linux.

I gave two examples, have you looked at either of them? Their github for example?

The story is about their hardware survey, and a contentious one at that.

The article is about the hardware survey, but your replies are decidedly not. In fact I'm having trouble following your train of thought. Might just be me.

In any case, believe or not, I'm not a big fan of Valve and their business model despite being a somewhat reluctant customer. I've said it many times before on these forums. But what got me into this conversation was your rant about them "catering to Chinese users". Whether they put enough effort towards Linux is another matter. Depends on what you expected from them.

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Quoting: Ardje

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Quoting: tuubi

Quoting: Hugormwow it look a lot like Pyra/Pandora https://pyra-handheld.com [External Link] whis is linux

The Pyra has an ARM CPU. This one is x86_64. Makes a big difference for compatibility.

But if I understand the Pyra will be modular and the next thing to be pursued after the release should be a x86_64 board as option.

You can't say x86_64 without a lot of fans...
The pyra has none... because arm cpu's can do more with less power.

That's beside the point. It's still a different architecture, which means software and games need to be rebuilt/ported (or emulated).

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Valve just provides the marketplace. Of course they could do something like split player bases into regions in their own games, but imposing these limits on third party publishers and developers would smell a bit too much like politics. Although developers themselves are already able to limit their games to certain regions/markets. They are not victims here.

Your gripes about censorship and virtual currency farming are really off topic. I don't know how you got there from Valve's supposed hostility towards Linux.

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