Quoting: LoudTechie

Quoting: tuubithat would only be a problem if that software still had some practical value to someone.

That quote works on the web, but on local hardware this is a lot less true.
COBOL has been deprecated longer than the Linux kernel exists, endures a full instruction set switch, a developers shortage and the millennium bug. There're currently around 800million of actively maintained lines of COBOL code.
I've encountered phones in the wild with no Android upgrade path beyond Android 7 and users who want to use modern applications.
I've had to save an ancient laptop from the bloat that is Windows 10 without breaking any compatibility.

You misunderstood. What I meant is that it's more or less fine for software to stop working on modern systems if it's no longer useful.

Clearly businesses still have need for their COBOL software or they wouldn't pay for its maintenance. And people want to keep using their hardware longer than manufacturers are willing to support them. That's all beside my point.

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Quoting: EikeBut I have the impression that getting ones DE to work on Wayland is quite some work that little projects might not be able to do. Is this impressions wrong?

Most of the smaller niche DEs can share critical and complicated elements like compositors, but even that is going to require varying amounts of work. TWM, being an X.org window manager instead of a full-blown DE, might not bother. On the other hand there are similar enough alternatives for Wayland already. Same goes for fluxbox and its "relatives". But they're still actively maintained and will serve a purpose as long as X.org is available. And it'll be available for years to come.

Slightly bigger ones like Mate and Xfce have been in the process of adding Wayland support for a while now and they'll be just fine.

I don't really see this as being a problem any more than, let's say, when Linux transitioned from OSS to ALSA and some audio players and libraries never migrated over. That's perfectly normal. I've written software myself that wouldn't work on modern systems because dependencies have gone the way of the dodo, but that would only be a problem if that software still had some practical value to someone.

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Quoting: EikeWhat will run the little DEs in a decade, when X.org is full of problems nobody is fixing anymore?

Just for the sake of clarity, are you talking of any particular DEs here or just some hypothetical ones that will never move on from X.org?

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Quoting: BlackBloodRumDoes anyone actually use the OS's default wallpaper, without changing it? :neutral:

I use the default Mint wallpaper at work. It's pretty neutral and goes well enough with a dark UI theme. I've noticed that I'm not the only Linux user at the office who sticks with the default either.

On my gaming machine at home I'm obviously using the official GamingOnLinux wallpaper from a few years back, just colour-swapped to a deep blue instead of orange, and without the GamingOnLinux.com text layer. (Sorry Liam.) It's relatively neutral and doesn't distract from the more relevant things on the foreground. Not that I spend much time staring at the desktop.

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Quoting: GuestAlso how can you despise Yakuza...

So, after the Fukushima thing, the Yakuza teamed up with the company that owned the reactors to force people they were loansharking to go work at reactor cleanup even though it was a death sentence. Then when they got sick from the radiation, they were laid off so they could go die at home and nobody would record it as having anything to do with work at a reactor. So yeah, that's one thing that might cause a person to despise the Yakuza. As well as nuclear reactor companies.

Meanwhile the Yakuza where launching relief efforts (that the government didn't) when the Earthquake hit Japan in 2011

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE72O6TF/ [External Link]

If you told me Robert Pickton gave lots of money to charity in between his rapes and murders, it would not really make me say "Oh, I guess he's not so bad on balance".

That's just more of the same sort of rhetoric some people used to defend the mafia organizations in Italy and the US. And the triads as well I think. "They took care of their communities." You know, when they weren't doing vicious crime syndicate stuff.

The Yakuza are seen as this romanticized comic book version of the brutal murderers and criminals they actually are. But hey, these games look pretty entertaining.

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Quoting: TriasAnybody else confused about whats happening? What's the difference between "boomer" shooters and normal(?) shooters?

Boomer shooters [External Link] are FPS games from the nineties that weren't made by boomers or played by them. Makes total sense. I suppose Generation X shooters doesn't exactly roll off the tongue.

The genre includes modern shooters with gameplay (and often style) inspired by these oldies.

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Quoting: Pengling(Though I would note that Ghosts 'n' Goblins was a conversion of a Japanese game. )

You're right. I wrote Ghosts 'n' Goblins but was actually thinking of another game I don't quite remember the name of... But I guess I made my point anyway.

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Quoting: pleasereadthemanual

Quoting: tuubiAmiga users didn't need MS Write. We had the clearly superior WordPerfect. :P

Typed a bunch of my school essays on my Amiga 500 and printed them out with a very noisy Star LC-10 dot matrix printer.

WordPerfect is still around under Corel's management. It had its latest release only three years ago.

Yeah I know. There were even native Linux versions at some point. Never used or saw them myself, but I know they existed.

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Quoting: M@GOidBut if you consider how bad most western platformers were, the bar wasn't too high tough.

What are you talking about? Some decent to great western platformers (and series) I remember enjoying on my Amiga 500 in the early nineties are Zool, Superfrog, James Pond, Fire and Ice, Leander, Toki, Gods, Chuck Rock, Rick Dangerous, Shadow of the Beast, Ghosts 'n' Goblins, The Addams Family, Disney's Aladdin & Lion King... I must be forgetting a whole load. But you get the idea.

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Quoting: slaapliedjeMS Write was also available for the Atari ST (I think that's what it was called before they changed it to Word). I don't think it was ever available for the Amiga though.

Amiga users didn't need MS Write. We had the clearly superior WordPerfect. :P

Typed a bunch of my school essays on my Amiga 500 and printed them out with a very noisy Star LC-10 dot matrix printer.

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