Quoting: CatKiller

Quoting: TheBardMost games runs better on proton than natively.

[citation needed]

Note that there are 9,612 [External Link] native games on Steam today, so you need to show that at least 4,807 of them work better through Proton on all hardware.

I think he meant the native ports. And he is right there. I have had better experience with a number of games using Proton than using the native port.

Most current example for me is Valheim.

As a benefit of Proton save files and configs are in the proton pfx, which are not on my system harddrive, so I do not have to bother backing up configs and savegames when I do something to my system.

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Yes, the ubisoft thing greatly annoyed me. I seemed to always run into the issue and had to retry several times.

Good to see it fixed, will try later in the afternoon :-).

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I like that there is another company getting in there. We will see Intel and chinese competitors in the next years.

I think in the Linux space it will be hard to conquer AMD (and NV if you dare with proprietary deivers like me, which caused me more headache in the past 2 weeks than AMD in the past 3 years thanks to the 5.16.5 kernel release).

But any competitor is welcome, especially if they do feature mesa instead of some proprietary driver.

I still think my choice this time was good considering the needs I had to accomplish (I could not get my hands on a AMD card and it would have been hard to get it passively cooled just by heatpipes without water cooling, and having had my power supply go up in flames I needed a new PC - thanks Corsair by the way :-)). But next time I'd probably go the extra mile for a card I can run with Mesa.

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It's not as if I've been waiting for this one, not my type of game. Sad to see them draw back on the Linux Support, but I think it a fair thing to offer keys for other platforms or even refund. It won't hit them much financially, and it will get them rid of the burden.

Anyway, I don't really understand it, it does not seem like a damn complex game, it's not as if they had to implement the whole render engine for linux again since they're using UE4 (don't get me wrong, UE4 has some nasty bugs to work around, especially on Linux - don't get me wrong those guys at Epic / UE are a highly skilled team, but it's more about a lack of real life application to actually get to the bugs. Unit testing and rendertests are fine - but never will cover all).

My guess is it's rather simply skill missing and wrong expectation (press a button and have a linux game, which it never ever is), or that they need to focus on the new game in the fear of running out of funds, and taking a hit from probably less than 1 % sales is more acceptable than to actually invest time or money. Which is the most likely reason, since they stated basically that they're short on money.

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Interesting that The Talos Principle is not verified yet ... I'd think that should be a nobrainer.

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Quoting: Shmerl

Quoting: STiATAnd that's probably not hard on Steam Deck, but it may be hard getting distros to support it.

I doubt any distro will willingly offer support for malware level kernel module.

That's why I said it may be hard on other distros. And I agree I wouldn't want that either, not for any game in the world.

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NVidia manages pretty well with a binary driber and akmod though. It's not as if there could be no EAC module, but it's certainly out of scope for steam to provide it, that would be on the disto level.

And that's probably not hard on Steam Deck, but it may be hard getting distros to support it.

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Quoting: KithopOther big one - under Wayland they now have the concept of a 'primary' monitor like under Xorg, so for multi monitor setups where those monitors are changing (i.e. laptops), it remembers your setup and consistently puts your primary panel on the same screen you set it to when plugging in an external monitor.

Looks like they may have fixed the bug I experienced, too, where a Konsole session would freeze if the monitor it was on (or the dGPU?) powered down while you were away with the screen locked, and just be totally dead when you came back and unlocked it.

I'll need to re-test and see if the DRM leasing support means I can get my Vive running on Wayland, next. That's pretty much one of the last things I keep a Windows drive around for, other than my Xbox Game Pass sub.

That's actually important for me, even on the desktop since X and Wayland discover my "primary" as "secondary" since my HDMI seems to be listed first and my DP second, while my DP is the "primary" monitor in front of me. You could work around it, but as you said, on a laptop that was more hassle.

For me that's the change which could see me switch, or at least attempt a switch to wayland again, even being on NVidia (somehow the fedora guys made that actually working properly with GBM).

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So he's telling that cheat creators could do it, and it would not be possible for a multi billion dollar company?

That's a bit odd. I can agree it may not be worth the effort, but I disagree with that it can not be done.

Though, it certainly is harder on Linux than on Windows by the nature of diversity, I'll grant him that.

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Quoting: pb

Quoting: nitro322KDE 4 was very rough, but by 5 KDE's been quite solid again. Heck, even by around 4.4/4.5 it was at least usable again, with steady polish and enhancements since then. Unless you just have a strong preference for the style or workflow of another particular desktop, I think you'll be happy with what you see in modern KDE.

I've been using xfce for the last few years, but I don't have strong feelings for or against any desktop, so I'll gladly test the new kde on the deck. :-)

I have looked at xfce so often, and It seems a hassle to just get my dual monitor set up properly so the primary screen is really the primary including the panel etc. That part of the configuration is for me so unintuitive that I shy away, since I often switch setups and have to switch the primary monitor quite often. Other parts about setting it up too. Once running it's nice.

KDE .. you see the ressources behind it, and while I think they did have their focus wrong for some time (especially 4 and beginning of 5), where they innovated, popped out features and libraries, without having a really good and bug free basic experience (as switching to dark mode does nothing for GTK until session restart, that your primary screen has a black background and is not interactive sometimes
etc.), I think they realized that doing better at the basic stuff is more important as the most features they could add by now. And I'm glad they take that route.

I still consider it the "best" desktop, but certainly not the one with the best track record in the past few years when it comes to bugs (most not breaking bugs, but little annoyances).

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