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Quoting: Lofty

Quoting: GuestProbably just some wifi-6 features being wrapped up in nice marketing terms to convince everyone they need this, and to get ahead of the competitors (forcing them to be compliant to whatever wifi quirks Qualcomm have).

Lets hope so. proprietary software/hardware that goes outside of industry standards (especially wireless transmitters) are usually horrible for everyone else that's on the (regulated) 802.11 standards.

But im sure it's fully compliant.

I assure you, 802.11 implementations and standards compliance are only very loosely connected. Some can't even get the beacon timestamps correct (oh wow were they ever so much fun to work with).

No, they were not. I had that pleasure. But well, it was a broadcom product - what did I expect, their quality always has been utterly garbage, software and hardware side.

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While Steam could use a competitor, it's certainly not Twich and their Linux-Unfriendly clients I want to show up in that place.

Quoting: ShmerlDoes Vapor predate Amazon buying Twitch or it's Bezos's idea?

I'd say it should predate it, since Amazon is a marketplace for literally everything. Would make no sense to have a different marketplace for games.

So if Amazon decides to go there (and they will eventually), I'm pretty sure it will be under the Amazon brand and not Twitch - but featuring heavy twitch chat and streaming integration.

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Would be interested in the "Other", since what we see is all Ubuntu or Ubuntu based or Arch or Arch based.

Would like to know how others, as Solus, Fedora, Suse are doing. There are not so many big players, but personally with Fedoras switch to Wayland that would be interesting.

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Quoting: STiATVery well, I've looked it up, it's actually true, the 6800 TX is ~3.6 % faster than a 3070 Ti, and ~5 % slower than a 3080, so somewhere in between those two :D.

Plus from what I was reading about Linux gaming specifically, in some workloads Nvidia is just worse due to some of their driver deficiencies, like with vkd3d-proton especially. So I don't regret getting 6800 XT since at least currently I'm playing Cyberpunk 2077.

Very well, as I said, I'd have gone with a 6800 or 6900 anyway despite any performance if there was the possible temperature side of things, since proprietary driver ... wasn't my first choice.

So the only thing I would have regretted would be - I couldn't have cooled it passively.

So I did the right choice for my usage I'd say, though, ye, I'd have preferred to use a AMD card.

Especially since most games I play don't really bother my system (except for probably Cyberpunk and KCD - KCD is interestingly very heavy on the GPU).

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Quoting: Shmerl

Quoting: STiATAnd according to tests, 6800 XT is actually worse than 3070Ti to the sources I am reading at least. But ye, I couldn't cool a 3080 either ...

From what I was reading, 6800 XT is pretty close to 3080 Ti, so I don't expect it to be worse than 3070 Ti really (I mean performance wise).

Very well, I've looked it up, it's actually true, the 6800 TX is ~3.6 % faster than a 3070 Ti, and ~5 % slower than a 3080, so somewhere in between those two :D.

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Quoting: STiATMy fans don't even start when gaming ;-). That's what I was aiming for.

I see. I doubt it's possible with higher end models, regardless whether it's AMD or Nvidia. For slightly more mid range ones - may be, especially if you downclock them.

I.e. 6800 XT is comparable to something like 3080 Ti I suppose, not 3070?

And according to tests, 6800 XT is actually worse than 3070Ti to the sources I am reading at least. But ye, I couldn't cool a 3080 either ...

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Quoting: Shmerl

Quoting: STiATMy fans don't even start when gaming ;-). That's what I was aiming for.

I see. I doubt it's possible with higher end models, regardless whether it's AMD or Nvidia. For mid range ones - may be, especially if you downclock them.

It's about the voltage they take and the actual passive cooling they'd take. My tower weights 24KG for that reason ... but 30W difference makes a huge difference on actually being able to passively cool them.

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Quoting: Shmerl

Quoting: STiATI just was not able to do that with the AMD counterparts, they require active cooling a lot earlier or so to say .. permanently if they get under load.

Sucks, but I think that AMD still has some work to do to catch up in that part. I'm aware that's a corner case and nobody really cares but me, but I like not actually hearing my system :D.

I didn't do an extensive research, but my Sapphire Pulse RX 6800 XT is not spinning fans and is completely silent under normal desktop operation, running at around 53-55°C (edge). When under load like gaming, fans start working obviously. I find it a pretty good setup. Plus even under load fans are pretty quiet.

My fans don't even start when gaming ;-). That's what I was aiming for.

I have not tried the Sapphire card though, but since it's a 6800 TX it is about cooling down 320W to 290W, and that makes a difference.

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Quoting: ShmerlSome interesting details from the latest stats:

1. GPU shift from Nvidia to AMD among GOL users has been almost flat for a while, likely due to major GPU shortages and inflated prices, which makes most wait and not upgrade their GPUs.

2. Radeon RX 6900 XT has more users than RX 6800 XT and RX 6800. Probably also skewed due to shortages. Usually it's the opposite picture.

True, but I switched to a 3070 Ti even though I prefer AMD, but since I could not get the 6800 or 6900 passively cooled by heat pipes, since they ... just get too hot not to actively cool them.

On the 3070 Ti I could opt into two active coolers which only jump on if the voltage transformers get too hot, which would be about if they get into a permanent load of > 80 % for several minutes (I decided to get two very silent coolers I don't really hear since the case is padded too, since those are just ~400RPM coolers - that's not an option for AMD either). I just was not able to do that with the AMD counterparts, they require active cooling a lot earlier and more heavily or so to say .. permanently if they get under load.

Sucks, but I think that AMD still has some work to do to catch up in that part. I'm aware that's a corner case and nobody really cares but me, but I like not actually hearing my system :D.

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Not that I do care much for anticheat solutions, since I do not play any games which require it, but there are popular games which do. New World uses EAC, as does Ashes of creation, and the mentioned titles.

Any of those popular ACs making more games work take out arguments for Windows gaming.

While I am personally not invested in online games except FFXIV (besides that it's only single player games), I was never bothered much by this, but people playing more online certainly will appreciate it.

I think with EAC being from EA and Valve behind that effort, we'll see more popular games opting in, especially if the deck proves to be successful and devs/publishers want to cater the platform.

I give nothing for steam deck either - but I am not into mobile gaming either, probably I start gathering dust being the old generation of gamer.

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