I don’t know why people are still arguing about this. The best solution is clearly game streaming from self hosted hardware. That way you can play games from any device anywhere (pros for game streaming) while owning the hardware and games assuming they’re free as in freedom (pros for traditional gaming).

Richard Stallman wrote a nice article explaining why we shouldn’t be using SaaSS (service as a software substitute) which is what these new services are doing. https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/who-does-that-server-really-serve.html [External Link]

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Sad, they were pushing Vulkan.

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Cool, but what about proper Wayland support? Or free kernel modules that are actually usable on desktop?

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Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: fireplaceWhat was the point of that update? Do snaps still exist? I thought ubuntu is using flatpak by default now?

I haven't heard of that being the case.

I looked it up again. It turned out that it was Ubuntu MATE the one that switched to Flatpak by default. Still, only a matter of time till regular Ubuntu does the same.

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What was the point of that update? Do snaps still exist? I thought ubuntu is using flatpak by default now.

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Is it on F-Droid? I only get my software from there.

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What’s the difference between this and toolbox in Fedora Silverblue? They look very similar to me.

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Quoting: dibzThe idea is really that flatpaks should share and reduce that overhead (just accepting some duplication with the system) by sharing runtimes, but in practice of like the 10 flatpaks I regularly use almost all of them download their own runtime version of the same thing. You can clean up some of it by asking it to remove unused, but that's very hit or miss; it works for some stuff. I just had to remove like 10 different versions of the nvidia drivers that flatpak downloads over time because it never cleans those up automatically, despite older versions being unused. Frankly, the sandboxing is nice but it's also a pain at times. You can work around it when it's an issue, but I rather dislike working around it.

That’s actually a bug specific to the nvidia drivers over there. It’s being worked on.

Apps use newer versions of the same runtime automatically with no intervention from the developers. If a runtime is deprecated, then the dev would have to update. But in the case with flathub, it’s much faster because it’s a unified repo so it has the most attention. With legacy dnf and apt repos however, the app gets dropped from the distro because of the deprecated dependency. So flatpak gives you choice whether you want to keep it or not.

Sandboxing related issues will all eventually get resolved as apps adapt xdg portals (whether flatpak or not).

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Quoting: dibzAgreed, system package manager any day of the week. AppImages, Flatpaks, Snaps, all seem to be the current (unfortunate) hotness and all of them are sub-par compared to native packaging.

Flatpak IS a package manager, you know. It’s just that it’s a lot more robust than the legacy traditional ones (dnf, apt, pacman, etc).

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Can someone fill me in on this? Wasn’t it already easily installable from flathub? Wouldn’t that just complicate things?

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