This is madness. They can't supply GPUs people can reasonably buy, yet they spend R&D cash in this...

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Issue opened April 2014, closed in September 2015, also affected Compiz:
https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/334-21-redrawing-problems-in-gnome-3-10-3-12-gtx-580/32905 [External Link]
A year and half of unusable desktop, almost a hundred messages to Nvidia and 48,000 views. But maybe it's just me...:whistle:

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Quoting: kalinAs owner of nvidia gpu for so long time I would say that it's too late for me to get excited. So far nvidia is not good deal for gaming on Linux. My plans are to buy amd gpu next year. I hope things get better for me after that

Cannot agree more.
My next GPU is going to be AMD for sure.
Even if Nvidia GPUs are technically more powerful (though that's very debatable) it doesn't matter much on Linux if they drivers are garbage. On Windows it might make sense to keep using Nvidia, but on Linux I will go with AMD from now on and save myself a lot of trouble, headaches, disappointments and stuff that I paid for but cannot use or works shoddily.

They either need to be serious (right now they're anything but... and always have been) about their Linux support in their drivers, or open source them... or ideally both.

I've used Nvidia GPUs since I've been using Linux, since 2006 and never had any problems. They always just worked and it's very easy to update the drivers on Arch. I recently upgraded my GTX 970 to an AMD RX 6600 and it was incredibly painful. I even had to buy a new monitor! I wish I'd waited for an RTX 3060 at the time.

It's all working smoothly now (eventually) but I'm writing this just for balance as I see a lot of people on here moan about Nvidia drivers :tongue:

Edit: I also miss GPU hardware accelerated nvenc ffmpeg encoding for my DVD rips.

Well you are kind of lucky. Nvidia has had some massive repaint bugs on some desktops and window managers that took literally years to get fixed. This alone should have made me switch to AMD but I wanted to give Nvidia another chance, as their gaming performance is really good aside from this.

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Metal Slug 3

So is this about some superhero gastropod?

I can't believe an educated Linux gamer like yourself ignores what this monument of arcade gaming is...
As a punishment, just grab a friend and a pair of decent controllers, and have the time of your life playing this shmup masterpiece.

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Quoting: STiATAnd Valve reportedly stopped payouts to Ukraine developers.

That really put them on my bad side now. I hope they remedy that soon, I'd dislike to have to stop using Steam.

Actually it is their bank which is at fault, and this also affects Russia and Belarus, so they don't seem to be on any particular side...

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Quoting: omer666

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Quoting: omer666

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Quoting: omer666For a company that started as a mac-exclusive, it is pretty goofy to be so hostile.

It's not especially hostile. The point is in order to make it work right now, you would have to defeat anti-cheat. Obviously they can't say that's OK.

While I am disappointed that they are not putting in the very little effort it would take to make the game playable on Linux, it's just business.

When it's just an email away I tend to think of it as such. They could just send the email and tell Linux gamers "Whatever, it's not supported but you're free to try it."
It also supports the idea that we are Schrödinger's gamers, we're not enough for devs to be interested in supporting us but if they enable the anticheat, we'll be millions overnight.

But it's not just an email away. Just getting anti-cheat enabled for the game on Linux may be just an email away, but making sure it works and supporting it require more resources than that. And I hope we are not naive enough to think that a live service game that sells content at premium prices can get away with saying, "We can't support the way you run the game, but you're welcome to try."

I want to reiterate that I am sorely disappointed by the decision. It won't make me not buy the Deck, and it might not even make me not buy more Destiny stuff going forward, but I sure would like to be able to play Destiny on the Deck.

I am not naive, that's basically what id software did with its Linux ports, and that's how Proton works too. Nobody is asking them to "support" Linux, just not to prevent it from working.

id software's Linux ports were released decades ago and were not live service games with paid DLC. And they were not expected to provide working anti-cheat protection.

Anti-cheat really is the issue here. If a single-player game doesn't work on Linux, it's the potential Linux player who loses out. But if anti-cheat doesn't work on Linux, it's the Windows players who are at risk.

I agree Quake 3 was not a persistent world, but it was online, and it supported Anti-cheat (Punkbuster).
As I said, there needs to be a bigger player base for Linux to represent a threat to Windows players. And if it ever grows by that much, making a native port can become an option.

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Quoting: areamanplaysgame

Quoting: omer666

Quoting: areamanplaysgame

Quoting: omer666For a company that started as a mac-exclusive, it is pretty goofy to be so hostile.

It's not especially hostile. The point is in order to make it work right now, you would have to defeat anti-cheat. Obviously they can't say that's OK.

While I am disappointed that they are not putting in the very little effort it would take to make the game playable on Linux, it's just business.

When it's just an email away I tend to think of it as such. They could just send the email and tell Linux gamers "Whatever, it's not supported but you're free to try it."
It also supports the idea that we are Schrödinger's gamers, we're not enough for devs to be interested in supporting us but if they enable the anticheat, we'll be millions overnight.

But it's not just an email away. Just getting anti-cheat enabled for the game on Linux may be just an email away, but making sure it works and supporting it require more resources than that. And I hope we are not naive enough to think that a live service game that sells content at premium prices can get away with saying, "We can't support the way you run the game, but you're welcome to try."

I want to reiterate that I am sorely disappointed by the decision. It won't make me not buy the Deck, and it might not even make me not buy more Destiny stuff going forward, but I sure would like to be able to play Destiny on the Deck.

I am not naive, that's basically what id software did with its Linux ports, and that's how Proton works too. Nobody is asking them to "support" Linux, just not to prevent it from working.

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Quoting: areamanplaysgame

Quoting: omer666For a company that started as a mac-exclusive, it is pretty goofy to be so hostile.

It's not especially hostile. The point is in order to make it work right now, you would have to defeat anti-cheat. Obviously they can't say that's OK.

While I am disappointed that they are not putting in the very little effort it would take to make the game playable on Linux, it's just business.

When it's just an email away I tend to think of it as such. They could just send the email and tell Linux gamers "Whatever, it's not supported but you're free to try it."
It also supports the idea that we are Schrödinger's gamers, we're not enough for devs to be interested in supporting us but if they enable the anticheat, we'll be millions overnight.

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For a company that started as a mac-exclusive, it is pretty goofy to be so hostile.

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Dear Gaben,

An HL game we've been promised,
Cliffhangered in episode 2 and ever since
We've been waiting patiently for this
Release third episode, for we are those
Who'll spend any kind of money on an HL game,
Even when we don't have any.

omer666

P.S. If poetry ain't enough I'll do a power metal version of it and the whole web will be sorry

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