Quoting: poisondEven more so for linux users. Regardless of NVidias awesome day one support for the features, my magic crystal ball says that it's likely going to be at least 1-2 GPU generations till we see any game on linux making use of it. So yeah, not worth it.

I think we could eventually have the chance to play Metro: Exodus with RT on Linux, as they ported both their older titles on Linux, and they keep a good track of using the latest Linux technologies. As a reminder, Metro Redux was the first game to make use of OpenGL 4.X, and it is the only one to support nVidia PhysX on Linux, as far as I know.

Still, even if I love the Metro franchise and though I really want to play it, buying a card this expensive is simply out of question, so no RT and no 4K for me in the foreseeable future.

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Quoting: BotonoskiHe makes a great point at the end which is bizarrely not as obvious to some people (I'm including myself) as it really should be. Ultimately it increases the amount of games on the platform and that is not a bad thing.

For me it's been the whole point of Proton since the first official announcement.
I'm a Linux-only user but I was thinking about buying a new console (a Switch, obviously) before the new Steam Play. Now that I can play Sonic Mania, Doom, Nier: Automata, Tekken 7, King of Fighters 98UM/2002UM/XIII/XIV, and many, many more, I am not even considering it any longer.

If that is enough to keep me from buying an additional hardware, I can imagine that it could keep at least some people from dual-booting.

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I play DooM 2016.
Runs smoothly as hell (pun intended).
The problem is that I've got issues with my 1000Hz mouse, sometimes it seems to block slightly, mostly when I look up or down. It's been reported on the Proton bug tracker, still no workaround. I tried the last Proton beta but it limits my screen resolution.

It's still playable nevertheless.

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I don't think that you need all the DLCs to enjoy the game, really.
What I did, just like I did with Cities: Skyline, was to wait until I can get all DLCs I don't have for the price of an expansion and I buy them in batch. That way, it really does feel like a fully fledged expansion, and in the case of City: Skylines, it almost felt like a sequel (apart from graphics, of course.)

Their DLCs are really feature-heavy, it's not like it was a 10€ map pack.

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Quoting: GuestDeus Ex, Hitman, Tomb Raider, XCOM, Life is Strange, Dawn of War, Mad Max, F12017, Dirt Rally and probably more I forgot about.

I agree, Feral is very eclectic and, I think, tries to satisfy everyone. I know many people get a computer for FPSes, however, so that's maybe something people are dissatisfied with on Linux...

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Quoting: barottoJohn Carmack in 2013:
"Improving Wine for Linux gaming seems like a better plan than lobbying individual game developers for native ports. Why the hate?" and "Translating from D3D to OpenGL would involve more inefficiencies, but figuring out exactly what the difficulties are and making some form of “D3D interop” extension for OpenGL to smooth it out is a lot easier than making dozens of completely refactored, high performance native ports."

He was right, after all. A bit too soon tho, that "extension for OpenGL" is today's Vulkan, that didn't exist back then. A lot of pieces had to be put in place to make it a viable solution.

To me, Carmack was mostly trying to justify Zenimax's decision to stop unofficial Linux builds of id games. Sure he got things right as he is a very (if not the most) talented dev, but his opinion on the subject was biased nevertheless.

On another hand you do make a great point: I immediately thought about id software when I saw the list of whitelisted games and told to myself, bringing DOOM 2016 is a way of "avenging" Linux gamers. Great job Valve.

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My point of view concerning whether we should rejoy or worry about that piece of news is going to be quite pragmatic.

What makes a successful gaming platform is its catalog. If people want to play a specific games, they will buy accordingly.

Now, will developers rely on it, I doubt so. Wine has many regressions depending on the version you're using, and developers know Linux gamers are quite tech-savy and want native games.

We clearly need more time to evaluate the impact of this decision, but more titles played more easily is always better, even if my personal opinion is that I want native titles badly.

Oh and it's not working yet so we can't even evaluate the tool for now.

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Quoting: 14$500 for the least expensive one. No thanks.

Believe me when I say that I spend 80% or more of my gaming time on PC. Still, I can't convince myself that a $500 video card is worth it when you can buy an entire console gaming system for $300. Come on.

Exactly my point of view. And don't forget some models from ASUS/MSI/Gigabyte will in fact be more expensive.

Also if you buy a 200€ card and upgrade to another 200€ card 3 years later, you get the same performance as if you bought a 800€ card but kept it for 6 years. Exemple : a GTX 1050 Ti has the same performance as a GTX 680. So I prefer to buy lower end but upgrade more often.

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Like many people in there I'm waiting for AMD's answer. I think they definitely tried something with the RX 560 on the power/perf ratio and if they release something like the GTX 1050 Ti (but a little beefier) I'll definitely buy it.

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Quoting: liamdawe

Quoting: MVinhasI bought a Windows Phone smartphone back in 2015. I really liked that OS and didn't care about being developed by Microsoft. Windows Phone was at his peak, with a good set of apps (nothing like Android or iOS, but still) and a decent performance. Then, the company A stated that they will not release the next version of their app on WP. Ok. Some weeks later, Company B anounced the same. And the downfall of WP started, IIRC on late 2015.

I hope this isn't happening on Linux Gaming world, Rust abandoning Linux was a huge letdown, now Football Manager...two AAA games and I really like both. Thing is, since 2012 until this date we didn't had news like this, the number of AAA games was always increasing. I'm kinda worried because I've seen this before.

Rust, according to one of the developers, is only a temporary situation due to Unity issues and driver bugs. Their situation can't really be compared with this, since they didn't directly remove support due to sales.

This isn't the first time we've had news like this and it hasn't really changed anything when it happened before. There's The Witcher 3, Darksiders 1 & 2, Carmageddon, Street Fighter, Project Cars and plenty of others. So yeah, it's happened before, will happen again and nothing's really changed overall in my opinion.

...and there is also a much older iteration with id software that proves Leopard's point wrong. Everything was operational on Linux, yet they said "it doesn't generate enough money" and didn't release Rage on Linux, even if every single game before got released on our system since 1993. John Carmack even stated that if we want games we should rely on Wine.

It was way before Steam on Linux, and yet, Linux gaming got bigger anyway. It just got bigger without them.

PS: Yes I do write a lot about this story but it really felt like a betrayal to me. They even ended Linux support for Quake Live, which drew all players from Quake 3, so I can't play that game online anymore. And I've been consistently playing Quake since the first game got released on Mac OS. That is pretty sh*tty.

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