Quoting: supashangCase in point, how many people bought and played "Witcher 2", "Alien: Isolation" or "Shadow or Mordor" on Windows months/years before they arrived on Linux? I know I did.

Well I am one of those guys who never had such thing as a "Windows partition", as I switched directly from Mac to Linux. So when I buy a Linux game nowadays, it's always the first time I play it. To me the OS is more important than game compatibility. But I know I'm an extraterrestrial :)

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My biggest disappointment is that Linux marketshare still hasn't expanded by itself. We need to at least surpass Mac users in numbers, as desktop experience on Linux is getting really polished and at the same time, the hardware is much more accessible.

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WOOOOOOW incredible!
I've been playing the Macintosh Full Voice Edition for many hours, I can't wait to play this on Linux!
Many thanks Night Dive!

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Quoting: EagleDeltaLiam, I think it is important to note that Kickstarter is NOT a store.

Also, Liam doesn't need to tell us what Kickstarter is or is not. In real life, investors turn their back on the company, they sell their stock options, and ultimately the company shuts its doors. If you want us to react this way, so be it. But I thought backing projects on Kickstarters or supporting open source systems was a bit more human than this.

True, but in if you think of it like how Wall Street works, most people putting money into stocks (investing) do NOT have any reasonable controlling stake in the company because their contribution or "Ownership" of the Company's value is so small compared to the larger investors.... same goes for Kickstarter.... we provide funds to help fund the development/production of a product, but we pay so little compared to the larger investors that we, more or less, don't "have a vote". Just like the average joe buying stocks in Google, Facebook, MacDonald's, etc has no "vote" in the direction of the company.

Business and Investing etiquette have never and probably never follow any sort of common sense. That's just the way it works. Don't give to kickstarter unless you're willing to lose that money.........

Yes, I agree upon the nature on investing, and you are completely right.
What I wanted to point out is that you tell us to be thankful whereas you are using the argument of "they only understand money, it's not their fault". Sorry but I can't hear this argument in this particular context. If money is all they want, they won't have mine, and yes, I think the whole situation is very, VERY ridiculous on their part.

I don't want to be aggressive or anything, but come on, don't ask us our forgiveness because they are more interested in money than in being honest.

Quoting: EagleDeltaDoesn't mean we can't be angry, but how we react to this affects how other game devs may perceive linux gamers and may even affect their willingness to port to linux. Show your anger with your wallet, NOT harsh comments. Those comment make us as a whole look bad.

I think in some situations, we can, and we must.
In many other cases, we observed overreactions, and I for once don't agree with many of them.
If you vote with your wallet and don't explain why, developers end up stating "Linux isn't worth the money" and we're in an even more sh*tty situation.

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Quoting: EagleDeltaLiam, I think it is important to note that Kickstarter is NOT a store.

Also, Liam doesn't need to tell us what Kickstarter is or is not. In real life, investors turn their back on the company, they sell their stock options, and ultimately the company shuts its doors. If you want us to react this way, so be it. But I thought backing projects on Kickstarters or supporting open source systems was a bit more human than this.

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Quoting: EagleDeltaWhen someone gives money to Kickstarter, they should be doing it for one reason only - they like the idea and want to see it succeed.

And if you like the idea of playing great RPGs on Linux, why wouldn't you pledge? I DO agree that a promise is a promise, but words have their weight, too. Let us prove our trust has some weight as well. And if the only way we can express it is money, because as a damn company they seem to only understand this (and this is sad, well it is contrary to the open source way of thinking but I won't open this door because it's a particularly dangerous topic), so be it.

Someone telling us "be thankful, they are kind enough to port it to your sh*tty OS" and "they are a company they just want money" in the same sentence is contradictory. If they are kind, if you want us to be thankful, well let them honour their promises, because money is money and it doesn't have anything to do with kindness and gratitude in my books.

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Quoting: EagleDeltaOk, I'm going to be the voice that no one agrees with, but Larian is a business. No matter what they promised, no matter what we expect, their #1 goal is to make money... nothing else. So from a business perspective, it makes sense that they would focus on the largest markets first for the Enhanced Edition.

Is it kind of shitty? Yes.
Is it the reality of the world we live in? Yes.

I think you just forgot about the whole "send us your money, we're releasing this on Linux" matter, but hey as Liam says, it's only a promise.

So, let us behave the way we treat people who don't honour a (paid for) promise: distrust and boycott them. I don't mean to insult them with my reaction, I'm just telling Larian to act realistically. We're not interested in this project any longer. Just see how backers -- or I should say investors -- react to this: too little, too late.

Because you underline the fact Larian is a business, let me remind you some basic communication and marketing knowledge: distrust is the worst thing you can get as a business. Distrust from customers is one thing, distrust from investors is way more dangerous.

I know we're not as representative a market as Windows, but who cares. A business that doesn't want customers doesn't deserve customers, and one who betrays them doesn't deserve anything at all.

Quoting: ShmerlLarian were hit by lack of Linux developers I suspect. They develop their own engine, and unlike the above which use Unity, they actually write their own graphics code.

As was pointed out already, the fact that they didn't include Linux in their new crowdfunding campaign is very telling.

On this I totally agree, but still, we need to define more accurately the role of crowd-funding. People pay real money to play this on Linux, I don't see why they should be treated so lightly. It's not the Linux gamer reacting here, it's the basic customer, and my reaction is just as the above, i.e. distrust and boycott. And laugh at them.

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HOHOHOHOHOHOHO.
Come on you can't be serious!
With Shadowrun: Dragonfall, Pillars of Eternity, Sword Coast Legends, Wasteland 2 and many other great RPGs - that have been already able to actually release the damn port they promised - around the corner, do you think you have the legitimacy to even SELL this game to us?
Pathetic.

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Quoting: omer666Question: does the Steam Link work with a Linux host yet? I would be very interested but I just don't have a Windows partition.

I can use inhome streaming from my Ubuntu desktop to an Ubuntu laptop. So I think it should work with the Link, too.

Great news! I think I'm going to use some spare unit and try it for myself before considering buying the Link+controller...

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Question: does the Steam Link work with a Linux host yet? I would be very interested but I just don't have a Windows partition.

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