[sarcasm]Come on guys, don't react negatively, people will say that Linux users always keep whining.[/sarcasm]

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It runs really great on my Core i7, GTX660 and 16Gb of RAM with everything maxed out and I am quite impressed with the graphics.

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Quoting: MaelraneSorry, but if I was about planning a port, why would I start an engine with DX9?

Quoting: Avehicle7887"why not start with OpenGL in the first place?"

Because it is much easier to do so.

It's no wonder Kronos started Vulkan from the ground up, as developers all around have been complaining about the numerous flaws that affect OpenGL.

Each time you see a port being criticized because of poor performance, remember that there are some things OpenGL handles very differently from DX9/10 and are a real mess to port or to code.

That's one of the reasons why having all the major engines already ported to Linux is a priority if we want Steam's venture to be a success -- something that's already in a very good shape.

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Quoting: wojtek88If the game would be 98% finished it would be already released. The problem is that it is 98% of state that they would consider acceptable, not 98% of golden game.
I have spent some time while playing Deadfull Adventures ported by Leszek Godlewski (former porting guy in Nordic games). Port is cool, respect to him, but load time of the game and menu behaviour are something that shouldn't be released. And I guess (assuming that Darksiders finds it's way to Linux) it won't be better here.

In fact he didn't get to finish the port before leaving Farm 51...

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Quoting: BillNyeTheBlackGuyBut but but they promise. They promised nothing. Period.

If it can reassure your almighty businessman ego to think they didn't promise anything, fine.

So they just raised money using the argument of a Linux port.

Doesn't sound any better, to me...

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Quoting: GuestThe Wii doesn't have all those AAA titles either, yet the Wii also lacks the 1500+ games that Linux has, many of which are other AAA titles.

You're talking about Wii U I guess ? Because not only did the Wii get a lot of games (1527 according to Wikipedia), but it also got a lot of big Japanese RPG titles, big platformers, all of the CoD shit and so on.

Wii U, is another matter...

Wii received Call of Duty games much later than every other console. It also never had any mainline Final Fantasy and never got Assassins Creed, Grand Theft Auto, Batman, Fallout, Skyrim, Crysis, Resident Evil (except a re-release of RE4), Tomb Raider 2013, etc.

You are right ;)
Though as far as JRPGs are concerned it got much better than a modern-days mainline Final Fantasy, and better platformers than any other console at the time (Rayman Origins - multiplatform, I know - Mario Galaxy 1 & 2, Donkey Kong Coutnry Returns, Sonic Colors, Kirby's Adventure, Klonoa, Epic Mickey, and I must forget some others).
I know, those are not really fashionable these days, but still they were really great titles that, apart from Rayman, you couldn't get elsewhere. [Edit] *and that sold very well

Of course we can be very satisfied to have 1500+ games on Steam Machines at launch, but let's make no misconceptions about other consoles. Wii had a strong catalogue, even if it was not the same as its opponents.

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Quoting: GuestThe Wii doesn't have all those AAA titles either, yet the Wii also lacks the 1500+ games that Linux has, many of which are other AAA titles.

You're talking about Wii U I guess ? Because not only did the Wii get a lot of games (1527 according to Wikipedia), but it also got a lot of big Japanese RPG titles, big platformers, all of the CoD shit and so on.

Wii U, is another matter...

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Quoting: supashangSo you disagree that someone who's never used/played AAA games on Windows is not a target audience for selling old/new AAA games on SteamOS? Riiiiiiiight!

No I don't, honestly I'm just telling you about my own experience, nothing more. I am not completely dumb, mind you.

I do understand your statement about Indie games vs AAA, no problem. It's just that your getting so upset *clearly* doesn't serve your argumentation.

One may think that you want to prove much more than this, or to prove something else, because, to begin with, I see no point of disagreement between you and Liam. Quoting out of context sentences won't change this fact, and we all know around here that what he thinks of it, and that it's not opposed to your statement.

In his later replies, he only responded to your obvious hostility, hence the fact I said it definitely doesn't serve your argumentation.

No, saying journalists and people around the web are waiting for more AAA titles isn't calling you an "indie fanboy". This is plain over-interpretation, followed by calling names and so on.

So please behave yourself, and think that we all want the same thing in here.

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In the end, I don't understand the point you're trying to make... sorry.

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Quoting: supashangYou are exactly the target audience for SteamOS.

I don't think so, the only reason I play on Linux is because it's my OS of choice. I already have a very decent PC that I work on, and that I happen to play on, too.

Quoting: supashangWhat the mod doesn't seem to understand is that many people ignore indies and go straight for the over-hyped AAA for their gaming fix.

He does in fact, and he stated it millions of times himself from the very beginning.
And as a matter of fact, I don't think people going straight to over-hyped AAA games are Steam Machines' target audience either. It looks more like they're trying to create their own audience.
That's what Microsoft did with their first XBox in fact, nobody was waiting for an American console with a Bungie FPS as a launch title.*
Yes a BUNGIE game. Like in "Macintosh-only indie developer".

*Edit : Just as a reminder, at the time everyone was looking forward to the PS2, Metal Gear Solid and Final Fantasy... That cost SEGA to end making consoles and it definitely affected Nintendo GameCube's sales.

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