Quoting: kalinBefore few days I started thread about initiative of implement d3d through vulkan but there is no great response from community

i think this is too soon. at least until it is published and knows how things with galium nine will work out.

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Quoting: Ivancillo

Not sure why you wouldn't want to sell your game on Steam, as it's the biggest store around.

If I were a developer I should think it won't be a problem.

But as an user I am, (and an anti-DRM one), this concerns me.
You say that : it's the biggest store of PC gaming by digital distribution.

Which means that if they grow a bit more enogh, they could turn into a monopoly.

except with Steam, choice of DRM or not is left up to developer and monopoly is not even remotely possible since all other platforms hold that honour (yes, i was sarcastic) them selves. there is zero chance Steam could ever be player in XBoxLive or on PSN

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Quoting: sleortI can't wait to see the [url=steampowered.com/hwsurvey]Steam Hardware Survey[/url] for the next month and see if these banners of games "COMING / ALREADY ON STEAMOS" did any change on the Linux statistics (positive preferably...).

*If nothing seems to have changed, I will take it with a grain of salt, as the Steam Machines hasn't released yet. The biggest movement will without doubt come from there - then afterwards we may see more users on other Linux distros as well.

Also if it gets really popular, more prominent hardware manufacturers may begin to ship computers pre-installed with Ubuntu. I know it's a long shot into the future, but nevertheless not impossible.

it would be wrong if anything changes. if people try it now based on these expectations, their impression might be different from what it would be when these games are actually released. not to mention steamos or steam machine

personally, i'm only interested in one thing
WHICH STEAM MACHINE IS THIS? I WANT IT!!!!
https://twitter.com/WesPhillips/status/573193120390623233 [External Link]

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Quoting: vulture...if you want desktop you DON'T want SteamOS. SteamOS is aimed at console couch potatos who need looooots of gaming, little or nothing of desktop. also, desktop will never feel as good as on any distro due to many reasons. mainly realtime kernel which makes otherwise smooth operations look choppy...

Agreed with the first part, but really there is nothing choppy in its usage. It feels like any other desktop.

things like window resizing feel anything but smooth ;) otherwise, it's zero to no difference. also as far as desktop goes, you might be stuck with old release for much longer than you wished

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Quoting: LordpkappaDo you think that with Vulkan Api we'll have the same performance of DX12 or more?

probably the same or little to no difference in any way, they both leverage same features. you can't make hw going faster than it is when it is controlled with low level access

main advantage is that Vulkan is supporting everything, while DX12 is only supporting MS platforms.

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Quoting: HipsterRichI literally have no clue what the SteamOS is, is it like linux or what ;/

SteamOS is a Linux distro, like Ubuntu, Fedora, Debian, Slackware, etc. It is based off Debian and aimed, unsurprisingly, at gaming as it boots, by default, directly into Steam Big Picture Mode (from there you can switch to the desktop if you'd like, I forget which Desktop Environment/Window Manager it comes with).

gnome. but, if you want desktop you DON'T want SteamOS. SteamOS is aimed at console couch potatos who need looooots of gaming, little or nothing of desktop. also, desktop will never feel as good as on any distro due to many reasons. mainly realtime kernel which makes otherwise smooth operations look choppy

if you are casual desktop+gaming, use distro of your choice and Steam. it will be much better experience. personally, i would fall in the first group

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Quoting: Segata SanshiroI wish they would stop including SSDs in these Steam Machines. Although SSDs are nice, if they want to compete head-to-head with consoles then needlessly adding an extra £50-100 on a hard drive seems completely ridiculous and will probably push the price past that of the PS4 and Xbone.

The GTX level discreet graphics card suggests a 750, which is probably the best choice for these at the moment and what I expected them to use. More reason why the SSD is ridiculous though if it's going to cost around the same as the graphics card (or more).

this one is a bit more high end, not just minimal specs. otherwise it wouldn't have 970M GTX inside ;) even previous model, model number was the same as NVidia gpu inside

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Quoting: TeodosioI wonder about the price?

this one is $999. some other start at $450 http://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/2xwdt6/steam_machines_models_specs_and_price/ [External Link]

still, this one looks so sexy i doubt i will be able to pass on it

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biggest fail of Ars article is the timing. posting speculation like this one week before GDC where Valve will finally unveil more information after long quiet is like intentional flaming in order to get money from advertising

first steam machines showed the problem and that is why they never happened (september was just for Alienware and that happened, just not for Linux which is probably best thing about it). you can't unveil spec that has "cpu, gpu, ram and maybe hdd". this is even bigger hurdle for developer than PC ever was.

my guess goes that steam machine will at least require glNext and this simplifies developer target a lot from "you need to check which core profile and extensions are supported, then use correct code path"

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Quoting: N30NIf you look at the depots it seems to be the Tomb Raider Trilogy, not just the first one.

that would probably be no.1 wish for ports for me. as TR fan, those 3 are by far best from series. 2013 is lacking in every aspect but graphics to be considered TR

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