Quoting: adolsonThe reasons I'm not using SteamOS primarily yet are to do with non-gaming needs. When/if they get apps for Netflix and YouTube and streaming from a MediaTomb server built into SteamOS, without having to use the browser or hack around at the system level, then I will use it. Until then, I'm more comfortable in a real Debian environment.

I bet this hack/fix is inadequate but I wanted to pop off a mention of it as it may be relevant.
http://www.webupd8.org/2013/01/how-to-get-flash-player-to-work-with.html [External Link]

It seems you can get Flash working in Steam browser, so maybe if you were okay with full-screen on the video instead of a app this would be good.

Actually if someone can confirm that this works and test it maybe GOL would do well to post a howto: as Im sure Netflix is desired by many users.

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Nice read. Sounds like the smoothie needs a little extra blending to come out smooth, still a bit crunchy.

The audio edit would be cool as Voice Chat on the Headset and SFX on the TV seems like a no-brainer.

It seems like most PC Gamers are X-Console Gamers and have a special hatred for Consoles. And just like Crazy Religious People who are X-Religious it's almost like they have a religion against their religion. So the first impressions seem pretty hostile all over the Steam Forums.

Not only that, but it seems that PC Gamers have large misunderstandings of what Steam Machines are an d are not.

The FPS thing is a annoyance for me aswell when in Big Picture, as I have to go to Desktop Mode to enable it on Arch.

Hopefully developers optimize well because at its current state you generally need to have superior hardware to what you would have on Windows if you want to get equal performance.

Obviously this will change with time, Ark has gone from 15 FPS to 40 FPS since it's launch on my girls Linux Rig so there ya go. Time will help, still unrealistic to expect overnight adoption, the success will be gradual and firm, Steam has always been good about building a cult following.

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Everything about this trailer and the game graphics screams low production budget.

When gratuitous Blood or Real Life Magic Spells are the "Special Effects" it just says un-creative and lazy to me.

L4D2 is more scary than this minus the attempt at a demonized chick freak show.

Also that skeleton king looks constipated, some on get him some Smooth Moves tea or laxatives - he looks like he needs to make use of the throne.
Pass.

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They need a new Genre because this doesn't meet my concept of what a RTS is.

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The air-fights were okayish.

But Tank Battles? I love tank Battles!

Anyone remember Battle Tankx from N64 - that game was so awesome, if their Tank Play is good it could be a hook, its so hard to find a good Tank games these days.

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This origin article is dumb. Steam Machines are competing against PS4 and XBONE, they're proven to generally run a higher FPS than those competitions - after all their competitiors cap at 30 FPS.

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Quoting: MayeulC

Quoting: Purple Library GuyThat is frankly the Achilles' heel of the Steam machine, much as I hate to say it: There's no compelling reason from the consumer perspective why the thing should be running SteamOS rather than Windows, and significant reasons in the other direction. That could change, I hope it will change, but it remains something of a chicken-egg problem so far, although already not nearly as bad as it was just a year or two ago.

On the other hand, assuming they do get pulled from the Steam Machine page on Steam, good luck making up for that with whatever other sales channels you got, Origin guys.

Actually, using SteamOS, you won't be annoyed with any of windows' aspects. No updates that automatically restart your computer, no bloatware, no viruses, etc. I can totally see how it would be appealing to a windows consumer. But it's true that these points are easily forgotten.

1 ) SteamOS gives Valve "Total Control" over their system so no 3rd party can wreck their cake.

2 ) $60-120 can be deducted from the Machine's MSRP as purchasing a license is no longer required.

3 ) Windows can't purposly identify which systems are Steam Machines and purposly send bad updates to "Fix" SteamOS. Say what you will - but it is my moral duty to reffer to iTunes as a virus on Windows Operating Systems. Windows Installs work fine and then as soon as iTunes is installed the system locks up frequently, lags, etc...

I mean Microsoft's prized child is the Xbox One, they have every reason to sabatoge covertly Steam Machines as it effects their bottom line.

4 ) Viruses, Bloatware as OP2 pointed out are not present in SteamOS.

5 ) No NTFS - Remember NTFS was supposed to be obsoleted for WinFS at least 6 years ago? Well to maintain backwards compatability Microsoft has the greatest compatability and the greatest baggage all the way back to Windows 95. Quirks built upon more Quirks. I really don't expect EXT4 to BSOD unless your quickly strobing the circuitbreaker for a Steam Machine.

My final point about this Origin getting all pu55y foot about SteamOS - who the hell cares? Judging by their Steam Store page their device looked really terrible and as large as a picnic basket. I think less diversity is better as the devices have clear winners. Also, I didn't know or care who Origin was, then I cared sortof when I heard they were going to do a Steam Machine. Now I'm back to not caring about who they are and what they do. As far as I'm concerned they can go back to being un-noticed and un-important.

Alienware taking a calculated risk? I think It'll pay off - I have friends from highshool who dropped 4,000 on Alienwares, putting the Alienware name together with SteamOS makes a package of cool - XBONE and PS4 aren't cool, Alienware is Cool. Valve is Cool.

6 - 10 months investment to become a new gaming force to be reckoned with? Totally worth it.

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I'll take quality over quantity any day, a 1-month delay makes little different to me.

Definately WTB, I also want "complete games", so Win/Win.

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Good read. My personal experience with CS:Go is that not even Xbox 360 Controller is capable of playing CS:GO in a way where you won't get obliterated by Keyboard/Mouse Junkies.

Also not noted in the article, I hear from my bro that the Steam Controller plays particularly well in Storm United and that the haptic feedback is his favorite feature.

I kindof see this like the Xbox 1st Gen Controller where it was a necessary iteration - I could see a v2 in maybe a year where after feedback the design is tweaked for greater perfection.

I hear they're selling these at GameStops in store? So I might grab one if I have the time after demoing my bros, I really wish they had displays at outlets like Best Buy but whatever - the whole BB staff seemed clueless that Steam Machines even launched lol. Obviously GameStop is another story.

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Yup 0ad can line their pockets and gamers will gladly shoot them cash to accelerate development - well most of us that is. Plus Steam Hub for downloading/installing and Social Gaming on Linux is very convenient.

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