Quoting: memvirusThank you very much!
I have installed the most recent flatpak version to give it a try :)
but only one lutris is being displayed in the program overview in popos
and it is not opening flatpak lutris, so when I want to open my old deb lutris I have to write lutris into the terminal right now

I assume you mean that the launcher under Applications IS opening Flatpak Lutris.

Sounds like the Flatpak version overwrote the shortcut instead of adding a second one. Your solution works but if you don't want to be using terminal long term, you can manually create a menu/desktop launcher (make sure you use a unique name) and point it at the apt executable. Since it is in your path, just using "lutris" as the command should work but I would supplying it's full path so you can be sure it's launching the apt version. I don't have my PC on, otherwise I'd be able to provide that path for you. Unfortunately, I don't remember how to create a launcher in Pop!_OS. You'll have to figure that out yourself.

Quoting: memvirusalso in flatpak there are some "problems" - I guess due to it being containerized
mangohud was not working, but I fixed that by also installing the mangohud flatpak (is it supposed to be fixed like that? or can I link my goverlay mangohud to flatpak lutris? cuz installing mangohud twice is also taking space..)

but my bigger problem which I cannot fix right now: pulseaudio latency fix in lutris is greyed out - I guess because it also cannot find it in the container?

That's how Flatpak works. All supporting "tools" have to be in Flatpak as well. While more knowledgeable types might disagree with my simplification, Flatpak is essentially like running an operating system on top of your base operating system. That's why I stopped using flatpaks. The extra space they eat up annoys me. I prefer to stick with the repositories, AppImage files or downloadable installers (.deb, tarballs, etc.),

You'll probably have to install a Flatpak version of GOverlay as well. (FYI, GOverlay is also available in an AppImage. It works with my apt version of Mangohud -- I don't know if it will work with the Flatpak version.)

Unfortunately, I don't know the answer to your pulseaudio latency fix issue. It could be a Flatpak container permissions issue or it could be something else.

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Quoting: AsciiWolfMeanwhile, the upcoming Ubuntu 26.04 LTS is still on Mesa 25.3.3.

PPA?

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Quoting: CaldathrasWhat they are talking about at this link would work best with tarball binaries. For example, with OpenMW it is possible to have multiple versions installed using tarball binaries. They all share the same configuration files, however.

Now that I think about it, this should work with AppImages too. The same caveat about shared config files, however.

Lutris isn't available as an AppImage, unfortunately.

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Quoting: memvirus(got the idea from here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1036337/is-there-way-to-install-two-instances-of-the-same-application but am not knowing enough in Linux..)

What they are talking about at this link would work best with tarball binaries. For example, with OpenMW it is possible to have multiple versions installed using tarball binaries. They all share the same configuration files, however.

Otherwise, @fenglengshun's advice would work best. I recommend keeping it as simple as possible.

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Quoting: memvirusI have Lutris currently installed via apt/ a downloaded .deb
Will installing it via flatpak make a new directory for it?

Yes. Flatpak, being containerized by default, would install its version of Lutris separately from the one installed via apt. Flatpak keeps its file system separate. It shouldn't overlap with apt.

The challenge would be telling the shortcuts (launcher) apart. They'll likely share the same name. Fortunately, you can just rename the shortcut as desired.

Quoting: memvirusOr I just backup my current lutris directory (which ones are the important ones?) and then upgrade - later if I want to have my old downgraded state again, just uninstall, reinstall and restore my backed up directory?

In this case, I would suggest using Flatpak for the latest version and then choosing an earlier version to install via a .deb installer. There should be no need to back up your config files (although it never hurts - they're in hidden folders under your Home folder in multiple locations). I never have and the files & settings have remained while I've bounced back and forth between versions. Not sure how it would work with Flatpak, however. I don't know where that version stores its config files.

Quoting: memvirusalso sadly PopOS seems to be neither in compatible host nor container OS

Not sure exactly what you mean by this, but Pop!_OS is based on Ubuntu. It is listed under Ubuntu in the link you provided. Generally, anything you can do on Ubuntu, you should be able to do on Pop!_OS. It supports .deb installers and LaunchPad PPAs, for example.

Being as you are new to tinkering with Linux, make sure you make a complete backup of your system and data before you start. That way, if something foobars, you'll have something solid to fall back on. Timeshift is effective but my favorite backup tool is Clonezilla (its back-ups are compressed and take less space).

Good luck and have fun.

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Quoting: clatterfordslim

Quoting: Caldathras

Quoting: princecThe latest drivers from Nvidia completely ruined my XFCE experience unfortunately, entirely breaking the compositor, which had to be turned off. Attempting to drop back down to the (known working) 570 drivers left me in "broken computer hell", booting to a black screen, which took a couple of days to fix. Grr. I am loathe to try the new 580 drivers as it's probably still the case that XFCE is broken.

I will probably have to accept that Mint really wants me to use Cinnamon instead, which I suppose is no great hardship.

I am running Linux Mint 22 XFCE with the 580 series driver. I haven't experienced the problems you've described. I'm on an older GPU, however. I also run at a resolution of no more than 1920x1080 (usually 1440x810 in game). Perhaps that accounts for the difference.

Maybe try @clatterfordslim's suggestion? Might work with the 580 series driver as well.

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Quoting: clatterfordslim

Quoting: princecThe latest drivers from Nvidia completely ruined my XFCE experience unfortunately, entirely breaking the compositor, which had to be turned off.

You have to turn the inbuilt v_blank off inside of xfwm to fix the screen flickering, after installing the newish 590.48.01 driver.
Here is the fix, unless you already know then ignore.
xfconf-query -c xfwm4 -p /general/vblank_mode -s off
Then reboot your system. Switch on Pipeline Composition in NVIDIA-Settings and you won't have any more problems.

Have you give any source for this fix?

Originally Leo the AI companion in Brave-Browser came up with it, but here is where he got it from.
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=311088 [External Link]

Scroll down the page you'll see someone had posted the solution. It worked for me too and have no more screen flickering.

Interesting. I'm pretty sure I'm not using the nvidia-open-dkms driver. Sounds like that might be the source of the problem. At least there's a fix.

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Quoting: g000hWell, Chrome Books (Google) and Mobile Phones (Google and Apple) are not far off being headless terminals. The public uses them for consuming content, most of their functionality relies on cloud services (e.g. WhatsApp, Instagram, iCloud, Google Maps, Google Docs, etc).

Not sure I agree here. My Android smartphone, for me, is effectively a minicomputer. I do not use it for any of the "functionality" you've listed here. No streaming. No games. No social media. I use it for visiting forums, online research, offline calendar & task management, recording notes, offline office functionality, etc. This is not all that different than my daily driver laptop. On top of that, I also take photographs and send and receive phone calls. These devices are what you make of them.

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Quoting: TheSHEEEPMeanwhile, I'm still waiting for some proper kind of campaign or Soulstorm-styled conquest campaigns.

This. I'm waiting for a proper single-player campaign too.

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Quoting: Persephone the SheepPart of me is like "man now minecraft can't run on anything" but also vulkan support have been here since 600 series nvidia with kepler and HD 7000 series AMD with GCN 1 both from 2012 so as long as your gpu isn't more then 14 years old you can still play as long as they don't go past vulkan 1.2 because of kepler. I'm not sure about the laptop side with intel so that concerns me. I don't know how kepler does with vulkan I know it does terribly with DX12 my GT 640 is dead so I can't check for myself. I just hope this doesn't effect too many people.

My old laptop's GT 730M dGPU can handle DX11 in Windows but it is limited to Vulkan 1.2 in Linux. The Intel iGPU only supports Vulkan 1.0.

On the flipside, my newer laptop with the MX150 dGPU can handle DX12 and Vulkan 1.4, as can the Intel iGPU. The MX150 is a Pascal series GPU.

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Quoting: JohnologueThey're taking away our right to own private computers

Nah, you can still own your older computers. You just won't be able to affordably upgrade them. 😀

I do lots with my older computers. I buy used. I haven't bought a brand new computer in over 15 years. The laptop that I currently use for gaming is 6 years old. I'm doing fine for games with it. The new AAA games don't interest me anyway.

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