TESTV (Skyrim) thanks that is all.

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These people really need linux development gofundme's, i bet we would get every game then.

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For those wanting to know about the "AAA" issues, watch the Jim Sterling episode about it.

As for the game itself, I personally think I'll skip this one unless it's on sale.

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hellblade it's unreal 4 engine right? idk.

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Quoting: liamdawe<snip>
I just want people to think a little more, but it's clear from people like "Nyamiou" that we have a lot of work to do. And yes, I know, you will never be able to make a community better than it is, but I will die trying ;)

Anyway...back to actual work for me :whistle::whistle:

His posts were probably in bad taste, but the way you react to these things... Liam, I know this is your site, however the way you react to posts you don't like paints a pretty poor picture of your character. We can all encourage others to behave better but, as you yourself demonstrated by calling this guy out (in a VERY unprofessional way), you should probably work on yourself before trying to help others. However, that said, this last bit (excluding the user shaming), about thinking a bit more and that we have work to do, is probably the most poignant part of the argument you've been trying to make. This site, is a portal that us users come to for information so we can have something to either look forward to or other users so we know if games work. It's an invaluable tool to the community and I hope you realize the importance this site has for a good deal of us. You do some good work providing a link between community and developer so these incidents don't happen and hopefully going forward childish behavior (on all sides), is a thing of the past.

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Quoting: ShmerlOnly recently their bug tracker was shut down, since as I've heard their lead TW2 developer (Peter Mulholland) left the company.

I wasn't lead on Witcher 2... can't take that credit :)
I provide a lot of in house Linux support, did some of the initial work to bring eON over from the Mac to Linux, established the tools used etc etc.

As was seen at the time, I offered my own time to help people who were having problems with the port, with every intention of feeding back help into patches at VP. Instead I was roasted alive and got sent (to my work and personal email accounts, and my personal Facebook account, Steam account etc) tons of very hateful mail, telling me/my family to go and die, and such like.

If it's as many as you say clearly shows many Linux adopters buying or wanting the game... Positive side to everything mate.

Still, I thank you for your efforts, and since a minority of a community is indicative of all them, we all thank you...

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Quoting: Shmerl

Quoting: wvstolzingIf CD Projekt thought there was a viable (given what THEY think of as viable) market for their product on Linux, they would have initiated the project, regardless whether the Linux community is made up of saints or demons sworn to eat the developers' babies.

Yes, that's why I don't buy this argument of "attacks from community cancelled the effort". They got many more times attacks from Windows users, and that clearly didn't stop their Windows release.

Also, a simple point: you can't really make a crowd to behave. There are always some individuals that would be displeased and would spread hate. That's how things work, everywhere. Bringing collective responsibility to the equation is unprofessional (if that's really true) to say at least, it only adds to hatred and malice. I'm sure it's easy to find examples of that in history. Collective responsibility is destructive, that's pretty obvious. We can't change everyone in the Linux community, it's not possible. But developers can change their attitude towards the community and control the damage (probably being) done. A dev studio is a single entity that can change but a crowd is always a crowd even if it calls itself "community". It's way too big already to play behavioral games.

This is what I think, there are complete piles in EVERY camp, that's just sad. You can't hold everyone who uses something accountable for a few loud waterheads. Otherwise computer users, gamers on all platforms, would never see a single game because of all the vitriol filled posts on every forum for everything I've ever read. I've seen hate spewed in a damn fish forum... people getting upset because someone said their fish was tougher.. I mean of all the idiotic nonsense.

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Quoting: BeamboomI think it's fair enough that they focus on PVP with this title - it just unfortunately renders me uninterested.

But too many MMORPGs over the history has flopped and gotten broken cause the devs tried too hard to cater to BOTH crowds. It is very, very VERY complicated cause the requirements are often fundamentally different and even work against each other.

Like, balancing. In a PVE game you want to become one powerful mother of a beast with area effects and shitloads of damage and madness. Unfair fights against a mob is just never an issue.
In PVP however, these things have to be meticulously balanced down to the single damage VS cost point. And that - often - leaves PVE gamers feel "gimped".

It really is a tricky balance because it's a balance between to quite different things.

So if they want to focus on PVP, then good for them - let's hope they make a great pvp experience out of it.
As for me, my wait for my kind of MMORPG on Linux continues...

Guildwars, warhammer online, dark age of camelot, all fun pvp rpgs, but done right since you didn't have to resource hunt too much in areas you'd be destroyed. However I do indeed want a time before minecraft ruined all other games, now we need freakning mining in everything. resource collecting is for RTS's and stupid sandbox games. I am dying for an EQ clone where you didn't even have a quest log. I want an old school 3d adventure, no holds barred, no hand holding, I want factions and... well I just want the original EQ back. Even if it means sitting behind a book well medding.

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Samsai man you had me laughing with all "F you, f you, f you, f you", "major ahole" and controller being thrown sound. This game looks like it'd have me doing the same. I love how you bring these videos.

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Snatched this one up, I miss the dream cast days, oh I would kill for my grandia 2 disks to work.

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