Is there an arch based rolling release distro that's not bleeding edge? Kind of like Ubuntu stable?

I'd be willing to try that.

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Quoting: Fester_MuddGreat article! Ubuntu is highly recommended for beginners and stability seeking folk alike. It is always just a matter of time when a rolling release distribution such as Endeavour / Manjaro / plain Arch break or an update process gets borked.

User really has to pay attention to forums and such before updating their system on those type of rolling releases, and or acknowledge that there will probably be conflicting package issues and so on: delete the one for time being, pull the other package in and then return the first one. This is the reality on Arch-based distros and the "sacrifice" won't bring you any FPS really.

Have you ever actually used a rolling release distro? Because in the several years that I've been using Manjaro, that hasn't been my experience at all. Upgrades have always been smooth with nothing randomly breaking. It just works.

Be careful. Because you have a great experience doesn't mean it's the same for everyone.
Personally, I can't use Manjaro on my Desktop. Bluetooth 5 support for my Wifi card is hit and miss... Updates regularly break compatibility. Pretty annoying when you can't pair your controller anymore, on a gaming PC. After 3 or 4 times of these... Incidents, I decided to ditch it. I get the same issues with Bazzite, but Kubuntu and Pop_OS! never failed me. Go figure.

It's not just me. Every major update that is rolled out, Manjaro posts a poll to their website asking for feedback, and every time, the overwhelming majority of respondents vote "No issues".

The point, of course, is that your characterization of rolling releases as a house of cards that will inevitably collapse without warning is not particularly accurate, which is why I wondered if you had ever actually used one.

I'm not the one who wrote that, but I get your point. Generalization, either way, must be avoided. Unfortunately, Linux is still a case by case thing, no matter the distro. There are always exceptions to the rule.

This said, even the most used and supported OS, that I won't name, break compatibility on some PCs, with its updates... So... :wink:

Edit: I'm wondering how many "normies" are attracted to these polls... I didn't know about them. The "normies" that install Manjaro and hit an issue will probably just delete it and run back to "the other OS" without giving a shout to these polls. Just a tought.

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Quoting: Mountain Man

Quoting: Fester_MuddGreat article! Ubuntu is highly recommended for beginners and stability seeking folk alike. It is always just a matter of time when a rolling release distribution such as Endeavour / Manjaro / plain Arch break or an update process gets borked.

User really has to pay attention to forums and such before updating their system on those type of rolling releases, and or acknowledge that there will probably be conflicting package issues and so on: delete the one for time being, pull the other package in and then return the first one. This is the reality on Arch-based distros and the "sacrifice" won't bring you any FPS really.

Have you ever actually used a rolling release distro? Because in the several years that I've been using Manjaro, that hasn't been my experience at all. Upgrades have always been smooth with nothing randomly breaking. It just works.

Be careful. Because you have a great experience doesn't mean it's the same for everyone.
Personally, I can't use Manjaro on my Desktop. Bluetooth 5 support for my Wifi card is hit and miss... Updates regularly break compatibility. Pretty annoying when you can't pair your controller anymore, on a gaming PC. After 3 or 4 times of these... Incidents, I decided to ditch it. I get the same issues with Bazzite, but Kubuntu and Pop_OS! never failed me. Go figure.

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I made the same choice. Kubuntu 24.04. I was on Manjaro, but found out that "bleeding edge" KDE is a PITA. Switched back to Kubuntu and it's "outdated" libs and got a pretty great experience. The only thing I did was add kisak stable repo for my RX 6600 and I'm pretty happy with it. Everything else seems quite theoretical, to me, because it gets the job done with much less assle.

But "to each their own", they say...

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Quoting: KlaasThere hasn't been anything that has tempted me into buying, but I'm still busy with Steamworld Quest which I bought on GOG a few weeks ago.

Do I need Brotato if I'm still not done with Vampire Survivors and Halls of Torment?

Quoting: MohandevirLego Pirates of the Caribbean

Nice game, but there are a few locations that are quite crashy. I've played it last year (?) for the first time.

Quoting: MohandevirWolfenstein Youngblood

I don't have that one, but it has quite a reputation for being very janky.

Youngblood was the cheapest of the lot... I guess I don't have much to loose. :wink:

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Just got Lego Pirates of the Caribbean, Orcs must Die 3 and Wolfenstein Youngblood. All of them under 10$. In fact, 2 of them under 5$. Pure nostalgia or to complete my collections.

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I still hope for a new "Valve powered" Steam Machine or a Steam Deck eGPU solution to go along this Steam Controller 2 leak.

This said, "instabuy" for me. My 3 former Steam Controllers are still really usable, but are showing their age.

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Quoting: ElectricPrism@Mohandevir -- Correct, No Smart TVs, thanks for being my sounding board to bounce ideas off of -- in hindsight it seems so obvious that a TV Set Box or TV stick or something like that might do the trick, thanks :)

@MayeulC -- I think Moonlight & Sunshine are great ideas -- (I also recall reading somewhere recently that you can create Headless Sway Outputs for streaming) -- I guess I could make a really basic Sway-Steam config too.

I didn't realize that SteamLink had a FlatHub ( https://flathub.org/apps/com.valvesoftware.SteamLink [External Link] ) or even Steam ( https://flathub.org/apps/com.valvesoftware.Steam [External Link] )

I wonder what the best compact cheapest Linux mini would be (I really do like coreboot and libreboot) ( I see https://system76.com/desktops/meerkat/ [External Link] and https://puri.sm/products/librem-mini/ [External Link] )

I dunno if there are any good 3rd or 4th options

Definitely, Moonlight is the better solution. Gave it a try for the last two weeks. It got a lot better with my setup.
This said, If I had to try another solution to my Android boxes and just for the challenge, I'd probably try this:

https://pimylifeup.com/raspberry-pi-moonlight/ [External Link]

But... the new Google TV Chromecast is around the same price of an RPI and since I need Netflix and/or Disney and/or Prime Video...

Note: If you have stuttering issues like I did, try syncing your host and client screens at exactly the same refresh rates (ex: 60hz to 60hz, not 60hz to 59.75hz) and enable in-game Vsync. It seems to smoothen things a lot.

Edit: For the price of a Meerkat, I would consider buying the 256gb Steam Deck or the 512gb Oled version and install Moonlight on it... Once Docked, it's going to be the same and you will gain the comodity of a handheld, if ever you need it. This said, the Meerkat is a good solution which has it's own advantages. It's just my reasoning.

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Unfortunately, being a PS4 owner, since forever, I already have a PSN account, but I totally get all the gripe against that requierement on PC and it's totally justified.

But in my case, my initial reaction is: "If at least it enabled cross-saves between Playstation and PC, it might make the pill easier to swallow?"

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Like what was said before, the "revolutionnary" stuff was all about AI. Probably the price too... Probably nearer to 2k$.

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