Quoting: PublicNuisanceI'm going to hold off buying the Steam version for a bit in hopes it comes to GOG. I'm a patient man.

I wouldn't hold your breath - I have a lot of games in my library or or on my "wish" list on GOG.com that have a native Linux version on Steam, but not on GOG.com... Many of which are older games easily ported to Linux.

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Exciting times!

I truly believe that if Valve Software stick at this - and (eventually) get the majority of the "Steam" catalog working via a simple "click" of "install" - it could be a game-changer... Outside of niche applications, a modern Linux-based operating system can do most of what a Microsoft Windows-based system can do these days (often to the same standard, too!), but games is one of the last big hold-outs.

Will it usher in the long fabled era of "the Linux desktop"?

I doubt it - there's a lot of wheels that need to turn for that to happen, and Microsoft have a L-O-T of resources at their disposal if such a thing ever did gain traction... But it will certainly narrow the divide by a considerable margin.

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Quoting: ArnvidrI don't remember where I found this, so apologies if it was in this thread already, but a list of people's results trying out any unsupported games are here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQ3_odz8JzEVK80vkku-b6FsICWb45xGf4VYnzYz5cNSMVQ-5BA2WoHBGAScw96MgLj1ONA7Cx0tyGa/pubhtml [External Link]

Quite a lot of games working perfectly fine!

Yeah, the "friendly" version of that data is available over at:
https://spcr.netlify.com/ [External Link]

And of course, there's a link on that page to the Google Docs (raw) data... For those that prefer such a version.

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Quoting: legluondunetWith Steamplay it's more than 1100 games available for Linux gamers (and soon MacOSX users).
source: https://spcr.netlify.com/ [External Link] (completely stable and playable).
I kept only less than 10 games in my Wine Steam prefix that don't work (yet) with Steamplay.

Make sure you all get in and test your games, reporting them accordingly - especially games which have few or no reports regarding their performance.

You'll need to enable Steam Play for all games in settings (Steam-->Settings-->Steam Play-->Advanced-->Enable Steam Play for all titles), restart and then install your games... But via the link above (click "Contribute!" at the top of the screen), it's a pretty straightforward process to report the status of your games; your specific system information can be found in System Information (Help-->System Information).

As the old saying goes, they "Can't fix it if they don't know about it!"

Quoting: lucifertdark

Quoting: Guest....did you just compare Valve Software to a nuclear arsenal? Because they really don't have that kind of power. At all.

90% (or more) of Valve's customer base is on Windows. Windows already dominates. That bulk is more important to Valve than the 1% of GNU/Linux users, but the latter is a good playground for Valve.

Windows as a gaming platform is rapidly going away thanks to Windows 10, Valve know this & that's why they are putting all their efforts into Steam OS & Steam Play.

Apple have made absolutely no attempt at grabbing some marketshare when it comes to PC gaming, and even their high-end computers are mostly rubbish when it comes to gaming... Not to mention the fact that most of Apple's range is financially out of reach for a significant portion of the population, even if they were (hypothetically) great for PC gaming.

That was more long-winded than I intended...

To get to my point, whatever the reasoning behind "Proton" (and Steam Machines, for that matter!), the PC industry could do with a little more competition because as the old saying goes, "competition breeds innovation".

Half-assed efforts at increasing competition - such as those efforts from GOG.com - do little in the grand scheme of things... Real efforts - such as those from Valve - actually make a difference when you look at the big picture.

Yeah people have been saying it's "the year of the Linux desktop" for as long as I can remember and realistically, that's probably a long way off... But when it happens - and there's a good chance it might - I guarantee Valve Software will be a part of the reason why it has happened.

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Quoting: Cyba.CowboyAny idea when they plan to roll this out in the stable/regular version of the Steam client?

They just rolled this out for the "stable" (non-beta) version of Steam...

It's a pretty small list at the time of writing (for "supported" games), but clearly Valve Software are keen to get the ball rolling:

• Beat Saber


• Bejeweled 2 Deluxe


• Doki Doki Literature Club!


• DOOM


• DOOM II: Hell on Earth


• DOOM VFR


• Fallout Shelter


• FATE


• FINAL FANTASY VI


• Geometry Dash


• Google Earth VR


• Into The Breach


• Magic: The Gathering - Duels of the Planeswalkers 2012


• Magic: The Gathering - Duels of the Planeswalkers 2013


• Mount & Blade


• Mount & Blade: With Fire & Sword


• NieR: Automata


• PAYDAY: The Heist


• QUAKE


• S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl


• Star Wars: Battlefront 2


• Tekken 7


• The Last Remnant


• Tropico 4


• Ultimate Doom


• Warhammer® 40,000: Dawn of War® - Dark Crusade


• Warhammer® 40,000: Dawn of War® - Soulstorm

There's an option in settings - disabled by default mind you - to enable this for all of the games within your library... Of course, there's no guarantees they'll all work though.

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Quoting: g000hWell, Valve have updated my Steam client to the Proton-enabled version already. I hadn't jumped ship onto the Beta release, like many others here did.

Yep, I run the "stable" (non-beta) version of Steam on my lappy and much to my surprise, I just got the update a minute ago too!

It's great to see Valve Software making a Real World effort towards getting more of their catalog available to Linux gamers and if they keep at it (by which I mean working towards getting most of the Steam catalog working via WINE within Steam), I'll certainly be spending a LOT more money in Steam... Admittedly, I'll always buy a game from GOG.com first if it's available over there (because of the DRM-free thing) - but like it or not, Steam has LOT bigger catalog and GOG.com tend to drag their feet when adding new "Linux" titles to their catalog.

Anyway, the list of "supported" games at the time of writing is (there's an option in settings to enable this for all games, which is disabled by default):

• Beat Saber


• Bejeweled 2 Deluxe


• Doki Doki Literature Club!


• DOOM


• DOOM II: Hell on Earth


• DOOM VFR


• Fallout Shelter


• FATE


• FINAL FANTASY VI


• Geometry Dash


• Google Earth VR


• Into The Breach


• Magic: The Gathering - Duels of the Planeswalkers 2012


• Magic: The Gathering - Duels of the Planeswalkers 2013


• Mount & Blade


• Mount & Blade: With Fire & Sword


• NieR: Automata


• PAYDAY: The Heist


• QUAKE


• S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl


• Star Wars: Battlefront 2


• Tekken 7


• The Last Remnant


• Tropico 4


• Ultimate Doom


• Warhammer® 40,000: Dawn of War® - Dark Crusade


• Warhammer® 40,000: Dawn of War® - Soulstorm

And the announcement from the Steam changelog is over here:
https://steamcommunity.com/games/221410/announcements/detail/1696055855739350561 [External Link]

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Quoting: Arnvidr

Quoting: pythoneer

Quoting: ArnvidrI've been dual-booting a bit lately, and I just installed Windows from an iso downloaded directly from Microsoft, but just never registered it, and the only thing I've noticed is that I couldn't change my wallpaper. Can't see that within a game no matter what!

You're violating the software license from Microsoft by not registering your copy of windows. Its basically "stealing" (like games or movies from the internet you don't pay for). I don't know if there is a more specific term in your jurisdiction but by german law its more or less "Obtaining services by deception"(Section 265a from StGB) or breaking contracts i guess.

https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/englisch_stgb/englisch_stgb.html#p2231 [External Link]

How can I be stealing something if Microsoft offers it for download? I'm basically running a demo version, and if Microsoft wanted to limit this demo further they would have done so (and indeed they did so in the past).

This is what I am thinking... He has (seemingly) obtained this via legal/legitimate means from the Microsoft website, so I fail to see how this justifies as "stealing"...

Quoting: Comandante Ñoñardo

Quoting: Arnvidr

Quoting: pythoneer

Quoting: ArnvidrI've been dual-booting a bit lately, and I just installed Windows from an iso downloaded directly from Microsoft, but just never registered it, and the only thing I've noticed is that I couldn't change my wallpaper. Can't see that within a game no matter what!

You're violating the software license from Microsoft by not registering your copy of windows. Its basically "stealing" (like games or movies from the internet you don't pay for). I don't know if there is a more specific term in your jurisdiction but by german law its more or less "Obtaining services by deception"(Section 265a from StGB) or breaking contracts i guess.

https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/englisch_stgb/englisch_stgb.html#p2231 [External Link]

How can I be stealing something if Microsoft offers it for download? I'm basically running a demo version, and if Microsoft wanted to limit this demo further they would have done so (and indeed they did so in the past).

I have two machines: This with Ubuntu 16.04.5 and another with a LEGIT Windows 7 pro OEM. When You install Windows 7, with a Legit key (The COA sticker)You have 30 for to activate it, you can reset the trial period three more times with a console as admin and type:
slmgr -rearm
This trial time is ideal for to try the hardware properly, because once you activate win7 OEM licence, it become tied to the hardware.

Once the trial period is ended, If you don't activate it, Win 7 will not lock, it will continue working with the annoying nag screen, even when you are gaming...

Okay, that's confusing as f#%k.

It's things like that which make me glad I don't use Microsoft Windows-based operating systems...

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Quoting: pbMy guess is before the next big sale, which should be around Halloween. If not that, then before the Winter Sale for sure.

That'd be doing themselves a favor is they did - I buy most of my games via GOG.com these days, but the ability to purchase a non-Linux game in Steam and have it "just work" in Steam for Linux would be a pretty big selling point for me... GOG.com would still be my preferred store of course (I'm rather anti-DRM), but it'd convince me to spend a little more in Steam's store from time-to-time too.

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Have they (Valve Software) given any indication as to when they're hoping to make this available in the stable version of the Steam client for Linux-based operating systems? Or is this still a mystery?

Whilst most of the games that I like to play on PC are available for Linux-based operating systems, I have one or two I still miss from waaay back in my Microsoft Windows days...

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Any idea when they plan to roll this out in the stable/regular version of the Steam client?

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