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Quoting: Guestpretty sure nvidia still don't have OpenCL 2.0 support either.

They don't even support OpenCL 1.2, released end of 2011.

Correction: Nvidia supports OpenCL 1.2, while AMD supports OpenCL 2.0
Will be interesting if Nvidia will still lag so far behind with OpenCL 2.1, now that they have to mess around with SPIR-V anyway...

Oh, indeed. Thanks for making me aware of the recent addition!
NVidia supports OpenCL 1.2 since April this year.

However, I don't think they lag behind because of the money involved to support OpenCL 2.0.
It's a political thing. I guess they could rather quickly wire up a OpenCL 2.x interface from their CUDA backend (or whatever intermediate layer there is for the compute stuff).

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Quoting: MyeulCThanks everyone for this information. I have one more question : since DX12 is very similar to Mantle [External Link], we can expect it to be very similar to vulkan, right ? Will it make a difference in the porting effort to vulkan ? Or is it something we don't know for sure yet?

If they didn't change much, we will see that once the final Vulkan documentation is released, the Mantle and Vulkan API has a very large overlap - to the point that most (if not all) Vulkan functions in the initial draft just changed prefixes from gr (Mantle) to vk (Vulkan).

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Quoting: Guestpretty sure nvidia still don't have OpenCL 2.0 support either.

They don't even support OpenCL 1.2, released end of 2011.

It clearly highlights the proprietary character soaked in that company.
And it clearly shows that OpenCL (together with good driver support)
is a good API. Otherwise, they could just let the users decide between
CUDA and OpenCL - if CUDA is really the better "product".
But it's more or less the same - granted, with good library support - but
actually meant as a vendor lock-in.
And it worked out... unfortunately.

NVidia is NOT your friend if you care a bit of software and hardware freedom.

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Will it feature a single-player campaign or has it been dropped?

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Quoting: edddeduckferalThe AMD Phenom II is a pretty old CPU design now and it is missing some maths library features that modern games and compilers often use. With things like physics being able to use some SSE instructions can be very useful.

Thanks for the info.

I own a Phenom II X4 940. Yes, it's old (2009?).

Thing is - it's still doing a very good job with new AAA games alongside a Radeon HD 7950... on Windows.
It seems games that are making effective use of multi threading will still make fun with this CPU when coupled
with a reasonable GPU.

Unfortunately, my experience is that many AAA Linux ports seem to rely on high single-core
performance because they either drop multi threading completely or doing it less optimized.

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I see Windows users raging in the streets... :D

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Quoting: Mountain ManYes. Bundle Stars is almost certainly selling Windows keys.

Windows keys?
Such a thing exists?

I thought activating and playing the game on Steam Linux is enough
to make sure Feral gets the money - no matter where you got a valid Steam key.

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Quoting: MaelraneAny chance being able to play this with the amd open source drivers? (Radeonsi mesa-git or even R600?)

The game uses OpenGL 4.3+ as a minimum to render correctly. This rules out open source drivers for any card until support is completed.

If you use the latest closed source AMD drivers released just a few weeks ago you should be able to play but not at a standard where we felt official support was possible.

As we said on Twitter we're working with AMD in regards to AMD card support.

Thanks, that's a nice bit of information.
Very appreciated! :)

Can you comment on how good communication with AMD (and the results) has been so far?

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Quoting: immortelI found it at 20$ with DLC on this site:

http://www.bundlestars.com/all-bundles/middle-earth-shadow-of-mordor-bundle/ [External Link]

Anyone knows if this is a better deal than the GOTY version?

This is all so confusing... ;)

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Dear Feral staff,

any chance to get a more detailed insight about what has not working out fine
with Catalyst/AMD than the usual: "You already know Catalyst is crap, don't you?"?

I really like to get a better feeling about the struggles developers have with Catalyst.
I'm sure this is possible without breaking any NDAs. :)

And thank you for your dedication about Linux!

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