Quoting: tmtvlInteresting, especially considering Oxygen is going to make a comeback.

Surprised I didn't notice it was missing. Going to have to rethink some of my basic ideas about metabolism.

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Quoting: Phlebiac

Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: PhlebiacNot sure what the timeline was for other package formats, but Yellow Dog fixed this for RPM with yum - in 2003, according to Wikipedia.

Maybe, but as I recall, Yellow Dog was specialized for Mac hardware!

Sure, but yum was not restricted to Yellow Dog Linux. It's "Y"ellowdog "U"pdater "M"odified to work on other systems. The YellowDog predecessor came a few years earlier (see Wikipedia). Nowadays, yum has been replaced with dnf, but it had a long run.

Guess I started earlier than I thought, or Yum came into common use later than Wikipedia claims, because I was definitely wrestling with rpms for a few years. And Mandrake's urpmi came before Yum.

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Quoting: Phlebiac

Quoting: Purple Library GuyDependency. Hell.

Not sure what the timeline was for other package formats, but Yellow Dog fixed this for RPM with yum - in 2003, according to Wikipedia.

Maybe, but as I recall, Yellow Dog was specialized for Mac hardware! Which I didn't have any of. And Debian had it beat, but you'd have to figure out how to install and use 2000s era Debian. At a certain point Mandrake came up with urpmi and that was a big help.
And the thing is, in those days the software ecosystem was pretty bad, so you were always trying to grab the very latest version of, say, abiword or whatever, in hopes that would fix some of your problems. Nowadays pretty much all the software is just fine so even if it was still hard to install, it wouldn't be as big a deal because at least I wouldn't be trying to find the bleeding edge packages all the time.

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Quoting: ahjolinnaAI isnt going anywhere as much as these anti-AI people would love to, its like thinking in the 90's that internet will go away.

It probably is, whether anti-AI or pro-AI people want it to or not. Not entirely, but the big AI companies responsible for most of the current use and nearly all the current hype are losing money at high speed; when they go bankrupt they will no longer be offering their current services.
Some of the cheaper Chinese stuff will still be around, I expect.

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Quoting: devlandEvery other unpopular idea/tech that yeilded this level of backlash should have been abandoned by now but we keep pushing it while it's actively being a detriment to society from all the perspectives in which you can analize it (energy use, profits, job loses, copyright infringement, ...).

Well, for the people backing it, the job losses are the point. They hate having to employ all these messy humans who want to be paid and have time off and stuff.

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Do you have to worry about food? Or would that be "Don't Starvester"?

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Quoting: CaldathrasThe book industry issue is complicated. Blaming just one source, Amazon, is as much a "straw man" fallacy as you accuse me of below. The retail market has changed. Small publishers, instead of just wholesaling to bookstores, are now selling direct. Consumers seem to have embraced "mail order" over brick-and-mortar stores.

On top of that, I don't know if this is worldwide or anything, but in Canada a lot of independent bookstores died well before Amazon or the internet generally were a huge deal for bookselling, because of the rise of big chain stores, mainly Chapters in Canada. So I really can't blame Amazon alone.

Although last time my wife and I went to France, one thing we noticed was there seemed to be bookstores freaking everywhere, mostly independent. So maybe the whole phenomenon is just an Anglosphere thing.

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Quoting: CatKiller

Quoting: Linux_Rocksbut_why.gif

Imagine Baby Shark, for example, had been stuck in a significant chunk of all films, TV programs and computer games for 75 years because it's "funny." How would you feel the next time you heard Baby Shark?

The horror!!!

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Quoting: Purple Library GuyMy year of the Linux desktop was somewhere around 2000, I can't remember exactly. The Linux desktop sucked really hard back then, but so did Windows 98, so.

There is something unbeatable about the early 2000s Linux desktop aesthetic. I'm nostalgic for it and I wasn't even there for it!

Oh, the aesthetic was great, plenty better than Windows at the time. But I have two words for you: Dependency. Hell.

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Quoting: elmapulthe list of suspects is quite small

Did you leave out a sarcasm tag?

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