Quoting: Mountain Man

Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: kuhpunkt

Quoting: GuestWindows only, shame... When i saw the trailer it looked like a nice game.

Why is it a shame?

Are you asking that because you don't know the person's answer or because you do know and you're waiting for their reply so you can give them a hard time?
Proton is great, but I don't think there's any point to razzing people for preferring Linux native.

The reality is, Proton is a perfectly viable option for Linux gamers that, in many cases, gives native-like performance and grants access to hundreds of games we would otherwise never get to play on our operating system of choice. It's also a reality that even if every single Linux gamer boycotted every game that didn't offer native Linux support, it would not compel a single developer to suddenly produce a Linux version to take advantage of what is, by all accounts, a negligible sliver of the market. I wish it weren't it so, but those are the facts.

So, in the end, refusing to buy a promising game because it can only be played in Proton reminds me of the adage about cutting off your nose to spite your face.

So?
Some people preferring native Linux purchases is still incrementally more motivation to go native Linux than no people holding that preference. And it certainly doesn't do you any harm if someone else has that courage of their convictions. It will either have no effect or a positive effect, but there is no way it can have a negative effect. And if the whole Linux gaming community grows, and the "native strongly preferred" current stays significant, when the whole reaches a certain size it will have an impact.
So why always this rush to convince people not to do it? They're not cutting off your nose.

Disclaimer: I run, and buy, almost all native games, but not mainly out of political conviction. It's just that I buy games mostly when they're mentioned on GoL and look good, and up until recently most games mentioned here were Linux native games, and I have more games than I can play anyhow, and I'm not really into the genres AAA games are usually in, and the genres I am into are well represented natively on Linux. So I've made one or two exceptions, but mostly I haven't found much point to go for non-native. But I can't claim to have been doing it largely out of political virtue.

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Quoting: cbstryker

Quoting: StoneColdSpiderARK: Survival Evolved....... also known as the answer to the question of where did the free space on my hard drive go???....... 125.95 GIGGARYDOOS!!!!

Isn't that for the native Linux version? I have the windows version installed (with DLCs) and it's sitting just shy of 250 GBs.

My god. It could take up a smallish SSD all by itself.

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Quoting: kuhpunkt

Quoting: GuestWindows only, shame... When i saw the trailer it looked like a nice game.

Why is it a shame?

Are you asking that because you don't know the person's answer or because you do know and you're waiting for their reply so you can give them a hard time?
Proton is great, but I don't think there's any point to razzing people for preferring Linux native.

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TUXEDO claim their Pulse 15 is one of the "most popular Linux notebooks on the market"

Not much of a claim, really. It could be dead last and not only would it still be technically true, it'd probably still be in the top 10.

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Shouldn't it be "Annapurrna"?
Weird, this is the second cat adventure today.

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Well, I like Noir, and I like Noir played for a bit of comedy, and I like cats, so maybe . . . I suck at point-and-click puzzles, though.

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Sooo . . . as to the specific Ark thing, is this one of those social situations where I'm supposed to politely pretend to be surprised?

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Quoting: subIt's going the way lots of us expected with Proton.
Instead of supporting games without native binaries,
fewer and fewer developers are willing to port their games.

It'd be lovely to see some stats on that, because it hasn't felt like that to me. I've actually been surprised how much native stuff there's been lately--if anything, it seems like more, and that's really not what I was expecting. It's just, on top of that there have been a bunch of announcements of "We're tweaking the game to run on Proton" from people who just wouldn't have worried about Linux in any way shape or form before. So the proportion of announcements that are about native Linux is lower, but not the actual number I don't think.

If I were doing a graph by pure instinct, the two lines for "native Linux" and "some effort to make Proton work" would go like, native Linux on a long slow decline over the last few years, followed by an uptick as the Deck is released. And, "effort on Proton" starting from nothing about a year ago, with a slow rise from zero starting to curve up as Deck buzz grew, and rising rapidly once the Deck released and it was clear the thing was selling well and received positively.

Of course I have no idea if any of that is true--clearly your instinctive perception is different. Real data would be good to have.

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I now regret that I recently bought a new laptop. Especially since mine currently works poorly with Linux.
Very slim and portable and metallic like this is just what I like.

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Quoting: F.Ultra

Quoting: denyasis

Quoting: F.Ultra

Quoting: TherinS

Quoting: GBGamesAnd yet the rhetoric keeps getting repeated, and it sounds so innocent and earnestly about freedom when in fact it is often double-speak for driving the opposite outcome.

In a country that claims to value freedom as a whole, it makes no sense to say "And we'll turn it to the states to let the people decide if YOU get to have the same freedoms." We, in fact, tried that, and it turned out to be a terrible idea.

Unfortunately, that is the POINT of free states allowing its citizens to vote how they want thier state run, within the confines of some basic rules set in place at a Federal level. No one is being forced to remain in thier state (there's 48 easy to travel to) or being prevented from traveling to another state.

If one city decides jaywalking is legal and another decides its punishable by jail time, then don't jaywalk in the illegal areas. Nothing is keeping you from walking all you want, but jaywalking is viewed differently in the two cities. If the population of one city wants to make jaywalking legal, then vote into office the officials who will make that legal.

This decision is, in SPIRIT, no different than the example of jaywalking. The people can now vote for/against it as they wish and majority rules.

So hypothetically, what about repealing the second amendment and let each state decide on guns, gun control and even total gun ban?

Up until the most recent Supreme Court Decision, gun control was largely left up to local jurisdictions. Even down to the city level. Some cities banned handguns. Others required registration of firearms or set rules of the discharge if guns. States still set age restrictions, prohibitions, carry requirements, and licensing. What's legal in one city is not in another with regards to guns. If you have a license to carry in your state, it does not mean another state will honor it. If you are allowed to carry in your state without a license, you'll still need one to carry in a state that has a license requirement.

...Not confusing at all....

Over the last 20+ years, a lot of restrictions have been removed, often by courts or legislatures, but it's still very much locally controlled. The most recent decision combined with the ideological makeup of the court does throw into question how many of those regulations will still exist in the future, but for now, each state can regulate guns independently to some extent.

Sorry for the double post.

To some extent yes, but I'm talking total control. AKA allow all the blue states (and some more) to 100% outlaw guns and enforce extreme border checks to make sure that no gun from "allow states" could flow through. Just curious how the "states rights" advocates would stand behind that.

I saw a similar suggestion recently: All those states should remove tax exempt status from churches, and see how enthusiastic "states' rights" advocates were about that.

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