. . . Hang on a minute. Did that one invasion in the trailer have flying dragons breathing fire on the town?
I think I'm wishlisting this.

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Quoting: stylon

Quoting: Liam Dawe

Quoting: stylonWhat's with the gloves in the video?

So I don't cover the deck in greasy fingerprints and skin for a video ;)

Yeah it certainly looked like you were handling a priceless artifact or something! :grin:

It is. Try to get one, like, today--you can't! It would be an indefinite point in the future before you could replace it.
(I suppose maybe scalpers are selling some for ludicrous prices or something)

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Quoting: scaine

Quoting: Purple Library GuyI really hate having to explain this all over again all the damn time. Ahem: No.
I am a computer user. I use Linux because it is a better operating system to use. And for reasons related to the politics of open source, true. But I want to use Linux, like it's an operating system and helps me get things done that I do on computers, like playing games or doing word processing or using whatever random bits of software I feel like loading up and using for whatever comes up.
If instead I have to be fiddling with the computer to make it do that stuff, Linux is failing to be a decent usable operating system. It is instead being some sort of pedagogical tool for computer developers. I am not a developer or a programmer or a server admin or anything like that and I'm not interested in having a computer designed to teach me how to fiddle with the OS via its design flaws.

I agree with all of that... but it's not really relevant here, is it? His point was that if you care, you can't turn off snaps. But as a computer user (as you put it), why would you care? Just use the computer. That's what Ubuntu is good at - getting out of the way and just working.

So either you're not technical and don't care, or you are technical and can tinker a bit to remove snaps. Sure, it could be easier, but that's not in Canonical's interests here, so I doubt it will happen.

False premise on two levels. First, if I perceive Snaps as something that will mess with the workability of my computer, I'm going to care even if I'm not technical. I'm not sure about that, but I do wonder. Second, if I have a political interest in openness, open source, and decentralization of power, I might care about the way Ubuntu does Snaps. And in fact I do have such a political interest.
Not that it matters for practical purposes in my case, because I try Ubuntu once in a long while, last time was not that long ago, and Snaps aside I just don't really like it as much as Mint, so I went back to Mint.

But in any case I was mostly just responding to the post I was responding to, because I have something of a pet peeve about being told in effect that if computers don't work well I should just be sucking it up or going back to Windows if I'm not man enough to hack the OS. And actually, IMO even though you start by saying you agree with me on this, there's still traces of that in your reply--like I should be leaving the opinion-having to people who can rule that command line.

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Sea gates to protect your harbours

Oh, that sounds cool. Not sure I've heard of a game doing that before--or even doing the implied thing of "you have harbours which could be attacked by sea and defended" in general.

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Quoting: mr-victory

Quoting: CreakiPhone 13 Pro: 6/10
Xbox Series X: 7/10
PS5: 7/10
PS4: 8/10
Switch: 8/10

Low expectations

Steam Deck 7/10

High expectations

No doubt. But as Creak said, that isn't actually fair.

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Quoting: Lycurgus87I really don't get all the rant about "forced snaps", Forced means you don't have a choice.
It's not the case here.
Feel free use any other software center, or the terminal. You can turn snaps off as a whole if you don't like them.

By which you mean, Ubuntu can't stop me, if I have enough technical knowledge, from getting in there and ripping the whole Snap thing out somehow. But as I understand it you do not mean that Ubuntu has a little button in the control centre that turns off Snaps, or anything even vaguely resembling that.
And sorry, but that does not mean I "can turn off Snaps"--I can't.

And be a happy little pinguin as I am. And learn to use your system, because probably (about 99%) you are the problem, not your machine, nor the software. Especially if you can't install things correctly.

I really hate having to explain this all over again all the damn time. Ahem: No.
I am a computer user. I use Linux because it is a better operating system to use. And for reasons related to the politics of open source, true. But I want to use Linux, like it's an operating system and helps me get things done that I do on computers, like playing games or doing word processing or using whatever random bits of software I feel like loading up and using for whatever comes up.
If instead I have to be fiddling with the computer to make it do that stuff, Linux is failing to be a decent usable operating system. It is instead being some sort of pedagogical tool for computer developers. I am not a developer or a programmer or a server admin or anything like that and I'm not interested in having a computer designed to teach me how to fiddle with the OS via its design flaws.

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Quoting: scaine

Quoting: SoltrummanAs a Ubuntu user since 06.06 snaps are probably the biggest misstep up there with MIR and we all know how well that NiH-project turned out.

I've covered before how ridiculous calling things "NIH" is. It's literally how Linux evolves and becomes better. Weird that Canonical gets hate for that, but no-one bats an eyelid when Redhat decide to replace the entire sound system, or indeed, the entire fucking init system.

Hang on a minute. I'm pretty sure there was, in fact, a lot of hate over the "init system" thing.
And I mean, any new sound thing on Linux gets an automatic pass as everyone hopes against hope that it will be better than the last one.
So, no, I'm not seeing the contrast.

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Quoting: damarrinTop seller in terms of revenue, not units. With it costing 10x as much as a game that tells us… zero.

Um, no. It tells us the sales are at least 1/10th of the top selling games in the same time period. The top selling games are selling in the millions, so that leaves 1/10th being in the hundreds of thousands.

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Quoting: mr-victory

Stellaris launcher

Quoting: deathxxxbut Steam still using wine 7.0.

And yesterday I was trying to figure out why Paradox launcher was perfectly fine on Wine Staging but blackscreened on Proton 7+.

What Paradox games require you to use the Windows version in the first place?

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Quoting: KennyQ"Steam Deck hits over 3,000 games either Verified or Playable"

Does the Deck even have 3,000 owners yet?

Maybe go look at some of the calculations commenters have made based on Steam Deck being the top seller on Steam for now 5 weeks running--definitely in the hundreds of thousands at this point.
Now that the Deck is in the hardware survey I'll be interested to see the survey results for a while.

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